Please don't even think about I'm not going to deal with you silly people and I'm going to quite this and go do something else. It's just a small vocal group of people who are blinded by greed and entitlement mentality. Most the rest of us are grateful that Tesla can continue to improve the already best product in the market. Thank you, Elon and the entire Tesla crew, for your great job that benefits everyone of us.
Blinded by greed? Do you know what deep feeling of dedication and support you are trashing on here with your assumptions?
Are you talking about those people who let TM borrow 25K USD for many years, interest free and with no guarantees, waiting for up to 5 years (like Hong Kong, where deliveries are lagging USA by two years)?
The main issue is that with these new awesome options, the P85D is not much more expensive than the P85+
If
TM had increased the price a bit more, the P85+ wouldn't have taken such a big instant depreciation, while it would have secured even
more funding for R&D for even more cool options and gadgetry.
Losing 30K overnight, for some people who faithfully supported TM from back when it was still in critical condition, delays upon delays for the HK RHD market - and by finally getting delivery, the car takes such a big blow. The only saving grace is lack of capacity, so that second hand price might be somewhat upheld by sheer excess demand and instant gratification desires.
Yes, I heard the "I don't have the folding mirrors" and similar. You guys had your cars for 2 years or so, in HK, we had to wait for July 2014 for the very first early mover to (finally) get their cars. We have been reading with envy how you had the cars long before us, just because Hong Kong was governed by the UK - and we drive on the wrong side of the road (duh!)
I can understand you think these people are spoiled brat whiners, but try to put yourself in their shoes. Seeing tens of thousands of cars being delivered in the USA and other markets, while waiting for the RHD. Lack of information, white lies from TM, delay, delay, delay. And when it finally comes, it is ... outdated right after. Even cars that have been produced but are on the way to Hong Kong - customers waiting to take delivery of an outdated product - hence many that didn't take delivery yet, are refusing delivery now.
I am not one of those, and I love my car to bits, I am just trying to speak up about giving the early movers some credit. We are not talking about those that ordered three months ago, but those that were in it before 99.9% of HK even knew what Tesla Motors was about.
Of any owner, I am about one of the most enthusiastic I believe. I try to "sell" this car left and right. I made "posters" I place in the wind screen every time I park, as I know people
will come and look at the car, wondering what it is. I promote it in the company I work for, amongst friends, defend the "it's running on coal" propaganda and all that. For sure I could be called a fanboy - yet I think this is forgetting about who supported TM from way back.
Tesla Motors rock! It's a revolution coming, although mainstream doesn't realise this fully - yet - but I guess it's slowly sinking in. Of course TM should keep innovating, it's not about that. Try to see it from either side, both "camps" here are "right" in each their sense.
It is
not an "attack" on TM, yet that is how it seems to be perceived by some.
It is not a ridiculing of the brand, or criticism of innovation, on the contrary. As for someone like me, I don't have the money for this car, yet I stretched it out and got a 5 year loan, 100% finance, because
I must get this car, TM must succeed and I am going to be a part of that revolution, even if I owe up to over the roof of this car. And my post is not about me as much as it is the Signature P85+ supporters.
I hope you understand the emotion behind this. It's not just some spoiled brats whining, it's justified. I think TM agrees and I know they are considering their options.
Go on and make fun of it, there are deep feelings of betrayal here. If you read further than just headlines, maybe you would understand ...