Can someone point me to the threads (or other websites) that discuss this issue (either side of the debate) ? Thanks.
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An EV powered by solar is an unbeatable combination except for walking and bicycling.
I performed my own analysis at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/94320747/GAS_VS_Electric.xlsx
But what I find really cool is nearly 60% of Tesla owners have made the jump to solar.
I would find your research suspect if you used the same logic at determining how many Model S owners have made the jump to solar. Kevin Welch is right...most likely a BIG difference.I have read a number of papers and as ChadS said there is a lot of FUD and misinformation out there. I performed my own analysis at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/94320747/GAS_VS_Electric.xlsx and basically an EV has half the environmental impact as an ICE even if your electricity is about 70% coal like ours is. But that is comparing similar cars like a Malibu versus a Leaf. If you compare a Model S to a Prius then the Prius will win if the electricity is even 1/3 coal.
This analysis does not compare manufacturing emissions as those numbers are not really available. I have a hard time seeing a significant difference but I simply can't find good manufacturing numbers.
But what I find really cool is nearly 60% of Tesla owners have made the jump to solar. Driving on Sunshine - Page 12 If you do that no gas or hybrid car can compete. An EV powered by solar is an unbeatable combination except for walking and bicycling.
I would find your research suspect if you used the same logic at determining how many Model S owners have made the jump to solar. Kevin Welch is right...most likely a BIG difference.
IBut what I find really cool is nearly 60% of Tesla owners have made the jump to solar. Driving on Sunshine - Page 12
The posts in that thread cannot accurately represent a random sample of all Tesla owners because...it's not a random sample. You cannot draw a valid conclusion from the responses in that thread. It is a biased sample, biased towards those who have solar and want to post about it.
The true number of Tesla solar users is probably a few percentage points above the actual percentage of solar users in the entire population. But we really don't know because no one has conducted a random sample survey of all Tesla owners.
I personally know five Tesla owners here in California and none of them have solar.
We have had this conversation previously and I won't enter into it again...bet every time you post your factoid I am going to point out that you have insufficient data to make that claim. You do yourself no favors by pointing out that you personally have 8 Model S owners (???) 4 of whom have solar. The best you could say based on these data is, "In my personal circle of research..."In my analysis I cite all sources and the solar does not come into play. As for the 60% of Tesla owners with solar please present ANY data to the contrary.
I have personally 8 Model S owners and 4 have solar systems and one has quotes out. Most of these are not on TMC. I agree the poll is not ideal but am open to any other options.