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Wasn't that long ago some of us truck owners (not me) thought tailgate steps and auto opening gates were sissy luxury items.

I don't think the CT has a power tailgate and I hope they don't make it that way. My reasons for not preferring a power tailgate:
  • It will likely fail before I am done using my truck. I own vehicles for 20 years at a time.
  • It will get damaged. Tailgates take a lot of abuse. They need to stand up to things like a 3000 lbs pallet full of sack-crete getting dropped on it by a poorly-trained teenage forklift driver at Hone Depot.
  • It will likely be too slow. My wife's SUV has a power back hatch. I never use it because its way faster to open and close it manually.
  • It will jam. I sometimes haul things like gravel in my truck. Dirt and gravel is going to finds its way into the hinge mechanism. A simple mechanical hinge where the tailgate can be easily removed to clear jamming rocks is a proven design for truck tailgates.
  • It will take all the satisfaction out of slamming the tailgate closed as the final act of a job well done of loading or unloading the truck.
 
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This is a big jump for a non truck owner.
1. they are big
2. can't park in tight spots, best to park at the end of rows or farther away
3. backing in is the best way to park, do not pull in with a truck
4. you can't cut corners. you CAN'T cut corners!
5. Go to an empty lot and practice backing up into spots. without using cameras. maneuver backwards while looking over your shoulder out the rear window. re-wire your brain for knowing how large the vehicle is
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No that's not me
6. They are wide

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1. This vehicle has auto park.
2. not an issue, because this truck has auto park and summon
3. Discouraged.- UPS Rule #3 Driving in reverse is discouraged - and this guy would get sent back to boot camp for retraining on how to use his exterior mirrors -- amateur!!! - backing in is the most unsafe way to park, every professional driver knows this. The military requires a ground guide safety EVERY TIME you backup and train their drivers to pull through for the same reason. Pulling through an open spot will reduce the risk of running over a child that you can't see below your bumper or obstacles that fall inside the blind spot. You should never backup unless absolutely necessary (loading docks are pretty accepted by professional driver trainers). Also this car has a backup camera that mitigates the blind spot issues and self parking.
4. True
5. Never look over your shoulder like this amateur is doing. That was taught in the 1960's, use your side mirrors, your center mirror and visually scan. see # 3 above. Do this instead or use auto park
6. True, 1 inch wider than a Model X

Another technique would be to get out of the car (in a very tight spot), and summon the car to where you want it to park in either forward or reverse, while you act as the safety, scanning while standing outside the truck.
 
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why cant he just reach over the side of his standard pickup?
He's vertically challenged, never works out, has noodle arms, his thumb is the largest muscle in his body from sitting around changing remote channels, his only workout is 12 sets of 12ozs curls with his dominate arm nightly and has been getting his monies worth at the local all you can eat buffet. Thats why he can't climb in the bed or pull the heavy cooler full of ice over the side (remember he has to do 12 sets of 12 ozs) and that's weight all at once with the ice is too much when you set your training bar so low.

Also how the hell would they sell those things if he looked healthy? I like my technique better - low the air suspension in the back and jack up the air suspension in the front and it slides toward you. Also he would put dents is the tin can body of a truck, when he loses control of the cooler and hits the side of the truck when his noodle arms give out.
 
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1. This vehicle has auto park.
2. not an issue, because this truck has auto park and summon
3. Discouraged.- UPS Rule #3 Driving in reverse is discouraged - and this guy would get sent back to boot camp for retraining on how to use his exterior mirrors -- amateur!!! - backing in is the most unsafe way to park, every professional driver knows this. The military requires a ground guide safety EVERY TIME you backup and train their drivers to pull through for the same reason. Pulling through an open spot will reduce the risk of running over a child that you can't see below your bumper or obstacles that fall inside the blind spot. You should never backup unless absolutely necessary (loading docks are pretty accepted by professional driver trainers). Also this car has a backup camera that mitigates the blind spot issues and self parking.
4. True
5. Never look over your shoulder like this amateur is doing. That was taught in the 1960's, use your side mirrors, your center mirror and visually scan. see # 3 above. Do this instead or use auto park
6. True, 1 inch wider than a Model X

Another technique would be to get out of the car (in a very tight spot), and summon the car to where you want it to park in either forward or reverse, while you act as the safety, scanning while standing outside the truck.

This isn't a UPS, box, or any other huge delivery or military vehicle. UPS drivers are also trained to not turn left, I guess Cybertruck drivers should not turn left then.

I never said to look over your shoulder as standard practice. This is practice. This is about taking technology out of the equation and learning about the size of your vehicle with your eyes and brain. To simply go from driving a car to a truck and relying on technology to get the job done is foolish. We aren't backing into loading docks here, we are parking at the store. The odds of a pedestrian using your potential parking spot as a walkway are far less than trying to reverse out of a spot where pedestrians actually are walking. If some guy buys a trailer, I would hope he actually practices and learns how to do it himself before letting the computer do it.

By your logic, we should give 6 year olds calculators to learn math instead of a pencil and paper.

Everyone should learn to drive stick as well, even if their car can drive itself. Learn stick!
 
I’ve read several sources criticize the difficulty of reaching items toward the front of the truck bed because of the height of the wings. You would normally reach those things from the side of the truck.

What do you think of addressing this by providing a slide-out truck bed rather than a fixed one that would bring those items further back where the wings are not as tall and therefore reachable from the side?
I owned a Chevy Avalanche for years with a very similar design. For me this was a non issue. I never missed going over the sides. The truck did have a nice bumper step and a good hand hold so I could easily get into the bed. Handy when shoveling out mulch. For instance.
 
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I hope they make some changes that you see in normal trucks.
They should ship a prototype up north and have some DIY type use it for a month. Get it dirty, get it wet, get it snowy, and take notes.
If you go to Home Depot and don't have your straps, then you're tying down with Home Depot string. This type of tie down will cut it.

These are easy changes
 
Roll up tonneau covers do not work in the land of ice and snow. They freeze shut. Not even the roll or fold up variety work well in the winter.
And at -35 the last thing you want to do when working outside is piss around with frozen equipment. It's either leave the bed open or use a topper. I've left the bed open and used a topper through the years. Both work well.
 
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Roll up tonneau covers do not work in the land of ice and snow. They freeze shut. Not even the roll or fold up variety work well in the winter.
And at -35 the last thing you want to do when working outside is piss around with frozen equipment. It's either leave the bed open or use a topper. I've left the bed open and used a topper through the years. Both work well.
A couple of trucks ago I had an undercover that went over the sides of the bed. It was as close to waterproof as a cover can get.
Problem was, it had those little locks that stuck up on the lid. They wont work when frozen and you couldn't open the tailgate. A lot of retracts have those. A Buddy has a retract... wow great top! And then he opens it in the winter. Leaks everywhere and the snow/ice falls into the bed. Nowhere else for that stuff to go off the cybertruck cover when it opens. I doubt that tesla has somehow solved a cover leaking problem that retract cover makers have been trying to solve for decades.
 
To many generalisations...how do you leave powertools in the bed in the winter snow, or shopping carpark without them being stolen? Likewise who loads sheets over the side, or has a truck with a frunk already so they now how it works?? You also don't need to open the vault if you load is only as high as the tailgate, which will work in winter too.

As for reversing one normally uses mirrors..this will likely (hopefully) not have any, so using the cameras, or standing outside with summon is fine, that is what they are for. Besides you won't see anything through the tiny rear window that is covered by headrests, nor see past the bed walls. And with the vault shut you will see nothing out the back at all anyway no matter how hard you look...

As for learning stick...well...we've come along way since inventing fire and the wheel. :p
 
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I have a truck, and I love trucks.

I do like the Sail Pillar Exterior Storage, it kind of reminds me of the RAMBox. I assume they are lockable? It is nice to store smaller tools for easy access from the side of the truck.

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Most of the time, I access the bed through the tailgate. A bed-step is a common accessary for trucks, and I assume some aftermarket companies would make one for the Cybertruck if Tesla does not already do so.

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