Firmware 7.0 Beta Discussion

[smac]

The easiest solution to this is to open up the UI to third party developers in a manner much like the Apple Store.

This was promised years ago, and actually something I looked forward to. It was a (very) minor factor in me buying the car

 

[Lerxt]

After a couple years of delay and/or with a price tag attached (khm.. Ludicrous... khm...)? Yes, I can believe that.

Personally for me, the most worrying sign is that we haven't yet seen any actual videos of AP in action. Even though there should be a sizable Beta program going on right now. I just can't believe that not one of the beta testers (or their passengers!) could fail to resists temptation to post a couple of short "Look Ma, no hands!" videos to Youtube.

Perhaps Tesla are good at picking people with good ethics? I'm looking forward to your reaction when Tesla deliver what they promise, as they always do. They have never let us down yet.

And I'm sure you'd then have the ethics to admit you were wrong. I will if I am.

 

[ohmman]

Actually, this very well might be the reason for the clock app. It's possible that they are adding a layer for the third-party dashboard applications and the clock is one of the samples.

I don't know what the NHTSA (and equivalent agencies in other countries) would think about that. If there is an approval process of some sort that needs to be undergone, which I would imagine there is, this would be too much overhead to make sense.

 

[perkiset]

I don't know what the NHTSA (and equivalent agencies in other countries) would think about that. If there is an approval process of some sort that needs to be undergone, which I would imagine there is, this would be too much overhead to make sense.

... and yet, if it could be pulled off, would, in a single update, change the auto world. The eco system that would spring up around that would be instant and powerful. Waze anyone? A app that puts my bluetooth connected Escort redline in the nose cone into the IC? YEAH MAN. I've always wondered if the Apps section was eventually slated for that. It would really be something.

 

[J1mbo]

Really good video of fw7 in action taken over the shoulder of the driver during the MX launch.

Really like the power gauge with embedded consumption graph on the right.

 

[HankLloydRight]

"Really good" ????

:smile:

 

[Soolim]

Really good video of fw7 in action taken over the shoulder of the driver during the MX launch. Really like the power gauge with embedded consumption graph on the right.

So the v7 IC on MX is same as what has been shown on the leaked beta. Two things I don't like with v7, digital only speedometer, and analog clock with outside temperature. I think Tesla got it reversed. I would prefer analog speedometer with small digital readout on the IC, with digital clock and outside air temperature on the touchscreen. Since it is now on MX, looks like Tesla has decided that it will be the same on MS? :crying:

 

[tezzla]

After a couple years of delay and/or with a price tag attached (khm.. Ludicrous... khm...)? Yes, I can believe that.

Personally for me, the most worrying sign is that we haven't yet seen any actual videos of AP in action. Even though there should be a sizable Beta program going on right now. I just can't believe that not one of the beta testers (or their passengers!) could fail to resists temptation to post a couple of short "Look Ma, no hands!" videos to Youtube.

And, we've never seen the AUTO-PARKING/RETRIEVE MODE videos either. We're a couple of days from the 1 year anniversary of the announcement (10/9/2014: "It will take several months for all Autopilot features to be completed and uploaded to the cars."); they missed it by a country mile!!!

An absolute disgrace!

 

[smac]

I don't know what the NHTSA (and equivalent agencies in other countries) would think about that. If there is an approval process of some sort that needs to be undergone, which I would imagine there is, this would be too much overhead to make sense.

Then Elon shouldn't have mentioned it

Tesla Model S to get app support and Chrome by late 2014 (video)

 

[HankLloydRight]

For the version 7 AutoPilot UI, I think this is all Tesla really needs to do for Blind Spot warning and lane keeping:

:biggrin::smile:

 

[tezzla]

For the version 7 AutoPilot UI, I think this is all Tesla really needs to do for Blind Spot warning and lane keeping:


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:biggrin::smile:

Hey, that football game was awesome!

 

[ModelSFL]

Then Elon shouldn't have mentioned it

Tesla Model S to get app support and Chrome by late 2014 (video)

Speaking of that, has anyone used EVE For Tesla | Premier Dashboard Experience For Your Tesla Model S, Tesla Model X, Tesla Model III | Powered by Evolved Vehicle Environments ? Seems like an OK alternative until Chrome is supported.

 

[DPDsModelS]

This was promised years ago, and actually something I looked forward to. It was a (very) minor factor in me buying the car

Elon: Apps and Google Chrome in the Model S by late-2014

only a year late at this point!
:wink:

 

[eye.surgeon]

What I love about these sort of posts is so often, how foolish they look a few weeks down the road. I'm willing to bet Tesla will deliver what they promised like they have with everything else.

In regards to autopilot, Tesla would need a time machine to deliver what they promised.

This is all so much speculation and negative and based on so little fact. We have seen nothing that indicates that they are doing anything other then trying to release an excellent product. THAT is why they are testing it, and that is why they have not released it yet.

Sometimes in testing you learn and want to make changes before a release, and we are dealing with people's lives here, this is not some stupid iPhone App. So let them take their time, do a quality product with proper quality control and not have a botched release just to make some stupid time deadline that is totally arbitrary based on Elon mouthing off. I have waited 40+ years to have a car that steers itself. Another month or two…. in order to release a product that is reliable, that is smart and a good investment for our safety and the future of the company. What kind of bashing will they take if there are problems and someone gets hurt?

There is no incentive to release it too soon. There are 5999 people in this company other then Elon - they must be doing something. Let them do their process and maybe lighten up a bit. So far the results are fabulous.

7.0 is essentially released in the form we have seen leaked for weeks, there are owners driving around with it now including 6 new MX owners. It's a fantasy to think that the leaked 7.0 is somehow going to change dramatically now. It won't. It will be running your car within a few months, a year or so behind schedule and disappointing to many, myself included., in that it changes the design in questionable ways and eliminates significant system information from primary displays.

 

[Andyw2100]

Perhaps Tesla are good at picking people with good ethics? I'm looking forward to your reaction when Tesla deliver what they promise, as they always do. They have never let us down yet.

And I'm sure you'd then have the ethics to admit you were wrong. I will if I am.

You've said this at least a couple of times recently, and I didn't comment until now, but this time I'm going to.

Tesla may have a good record of coming through most of the time, but it is certainly not a perfect record. Some of the promises made and never delivered on include the center console issue, a visor issue of some sort (was it mirrors in the visors?--I'm not on top of that one), and I know there are others. So Tesla definitely has let some of us down.

 

[Canuck]

... Tesla definitely has let some of us down.

I don't expect any company to meet all of my expectations but Tesla overall has greatly exceeded my expectations. 10 years ago, I don't think anyone would have predicted the electric vehicle they are producing, especially considering its range, speed, electronics, etc.

It's too bad they have let you down. But then again, some people are just really hard to please.

 

[Andyw2100]

It's too bad they have let you down. But then again, some people are just really hard to please.

You make it sound like I was making a subjective statement. There was absolutely nothing subjective about it.

The poster I was responding to on more than one occasion stated that Tesla always delivered what they promised to, and had never let us down. My post was a simple and completely objective statement of fact indicating with examples that that is simply not true.

 

[Cyclone]

"Really good" ????

:smile:

Compared to other videos available, it does show a bit more about actually using the car. Not much though.

 

[Zythryn]

... It's a fantasy to think that the leaked 7.0 is somehow going to change dramatically now. It won't. It will be running your car within a few months, a year or so behind schedule and disappointing to many, myself included., in that it changes the design in questionable ways and eliminates significant system information from primary displays.

Once again, unless you are a higher up in the Tesla firmware department, this is at best, pure speculation.
The leaked info has been still images. We don't know what user options are currently in beta, much less what will be the final form.

I understand that for you, there is a lack of information you find significant.
IMO, the leaked images do not show any lack of "significant system information".
I understand you, and some others may think so, but others may disagree.
If it truly is as awful as you seem to think, I am sure beta testers, who have actually lived with it, have told them.

All I ask is that people calm down until you get to see the final, working product.

 

[Cyberax]

I don't know what the NHTSA (and equivalent agencies in other countries) would think about that. If there is an approval process of some sort that needs to be undergone, which I would imagine there is, this would be too much overhead to make sense.

It's fairly easy to design an API for the instrument cluster. Since it's not interactive at all and doesn't require anything graphic-intensive, Tesla only needs to provide an API for developers to update two images (for the left and right "app panes"). 3rd-party apps will run on a separate CPU so the worst case scenario - you get two empty panes to the left and right of the speedometer.