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This game won't be over till Tesla falls into bankruptcy and some, with righteous indignation, will claim that they've done consumers a favor.

This just pisses me off more and more, the people that were happy until they read this set of threads. Are you kidding me? So you had an incredible car right up until someone told you you didn't? Did your car slow down last night? And the the drum beaters, hell bent on fomenting this...

The core of this entire issue is that Tesla produced HP numbers in the first place. They need to go Apple on it. Apple lost heavy ground when they tried to go toe-to-toe with other processors and shifted to the Motorola chip. It's apples to oranges and, in fact, is both meaningless and silly...

Blood in the water. How proud you all must be.

Unfortunately, Exactly.

Another interesting thought along that line is that a tweak was applied, but it's protomatter (ancient Star Trek ref). It works in a controlled environment but can't, perhaps for safety or car health, be released at this time. Could've been put in the MT car without them even knowing it. Of...

I don't have a P, eclipxe - are you saying that you definitely feel the difference, at all speeds up to 80? I had read, and was under the impression that the P was not really worth it, that the 85D, bang-for-buckwise, was good enough. Opinion?

There's a gentleman here in AZ (met him at a Tesla Enthusiasts event) that does it all the time. I don't know the details of your connector, but like Kandiru said, buy all the adapters if your concerned and you'll have a great kit for when on the road. I have all of them including CHAdeMO and...

Appreciated. In my experience, companies are rarely smart enough to actually orchestrate such a thing, and keeping that quiet would be even tougher. As has been stated by you and others, the more likely scenario is either screw up or caught with pants down. None of this, of course, excuses the...

You don't need to, you're in the thread. Fair, although I've not looked at the threads to see if there is any more to the story. If it's akin to this debate, then there are more angles than what is being presented here. MT disagrees. And the number of customers worrying would probably be less...

I would agree, if they actually had a plan to solve the infrastructure problem. Putting chargers at dealerships is hardly a plan - everyone I talk to about EV asks the same question about range, anxiety and "what do you do if you get stuck?" There's only one company out there that has...

In fairness, Tesla doesn't disappoint customers before delivering. You, and several extremely vocal people have created much more disappointment and kerfuffle than perhaps would be out there. That statement is a broad brush and reflects your position as if it's a truism for all customers...

Spot on, Petra. I believe that people completely miss the real Killer App of the Tesla: the SCs. Tesla brilliantly noted that adoption of a (relatively) new paradigm will take an infrastructure that eliminates range anxiety. Certainly, the time to charge is a downside compared to anything that...

WOW didn't know/understand that. HORRIBLE. Cheers Max thanks for the clarification.

Man, what a nasty story. Almost turns my stomach, seeing such a beautiful car that way (one of ours is black as well, so it hits too close to home) I guess I'm confused about one thing - even if they did damage the fenders during towing, wouldn't that then also get covered? I mean, the car is...

Totally my pleasure, I really appreciate the time you took with those PMs. Made me feel much less concerned about getting into it. The power cable is doubled-back in the fold, then the whole mess was electrical taped to keep water out. Agree that it's a concern, but given your tips, I think I...

I purchased Delphi again a few years ago, when they announced their Windows/OSX platform, then followed up with enterprise version of the iOS and Android version. It was as fine as I remembered it, but I've moved so far away from that kind of development that it no longer made sense. But I'm...

We jumped right past Fox from dBase III into Clipper. I recall Summer '87 to be the best of that breed, especially when combined with "B-Linker" which did paged memory swapping and dynamic link libs. That, combined with some special sauce we wrote in C to get super performance from a couple...

Ah, that's the prlblem - we're on different accounts. Perhaps I can get them combined and then we could do it ... is there any downside to having 1 account rather than 2?

LOL Well, you are absolutely right that it deserved jumping over - as I recall it came out just later than 1-2-3, and was not as well received - I don't even think we built a class around it. But it was an exciting time :)

First want to take a moment to thank the many folks here that have helped with detector installs, particularly CHG-ON who sent me a couple *excellent* private messages with the specifics of precisely what he ordered to do his Valentine install. I chose the Redline because of its detection...

^^ yes - what did you need to do to get both cars in the same iOS app?

Ah, Visicalc and the Apple ][ ... that was pretty awesome. I was the chief instructor at a computer school in California in the early 80s teaching Visicalc (among others, like Magic Window" - do you remember that one?). But then there was this awesome new software that we began teaching as soon...

Awesome for you. I don't find that, in either slow or tight curves. If the curve is too tight and my speed too great it simply gives up, similar in fashion to the Tesla Tried to Kill ME video. - - - Updated - - - Damn straight, he's a helluva guy. And he knows I'm happy with his horsepower...

I picked up a screw on about my 3rd day as well, went to Discount Tire who fixed it for free even though it's not theirs. But even if not, I have a hard time imagining a scenario where Tesla would be responsible for my road damage ...

"Slowing before turns" would take more intelligence than AP has been currently endowed. Remember, it's designed as a somewhat static speed, long straight highway mechanism (Although it very effectively drives me all over town as well). Anticipation of a curve, and then accelleration out of it...

Wait. First it's that Tesla hasn't asked me for MY opinion, now it's because they ask for feedback they suck? Frankly it's amazing to me that he wants discussion at all, given the volume and spiteful malcontent nature of many of the posts at this forum. Amazing to me. If Elon has half a brain...

Spot on. I use EVTripPlanner while at home, a couple days before a trip to make sure that I'm seeing all possible options, but once in the car I select a SC and then watch my output to make sure that all the various systems in the car agree, roughly (or I can calc the deviation) that Im within...

You equilibrated speeding with AP and endangerment. This is the actual fallacy. We can see that even the state governments see speeding as different than drunk driving and other forms of less-controlled driving. Driving AP in a way that is inconsistent with the rules specified by Tesla could...

Because we've already seen videos and heard the stories of people pushing AP considerably beyond what it was designed to do, and AP making (perhaps, not entirely known) very bad decisions. I'd wager that, if used in a very conservative way, on straight highways with clear markings, the odds...

Unequal assertion. Speeding is a well understood risk with high practice and established parameters. Additionally, people seeing another one speeding are accustomed to the effect on their own vehicle and can make adjustments to their driving surroundings based on the new input (guy is speeding...

Right. Well, with all due respect, your notion of "craptastic UI" a "pre-alpha release" or what you want or don't want in the car is neither a factual truism for the community in general or a widely held opinion. Your opinions, thus stated, make it impossible for someone that likes the direction...

Well said. In fact, when I am worried about (or even interested in) range I put the full energy app on low end of the 17" and toggle between mile-averages and usage trajectory to make sure that I've got myself sorted out. I don't really rely on the rated range on the speedo at all because it's...

WE both work at home, so total mileage is low. It's all about the look man. ;) - - - Updated - - - Also, we're both on 3-year company leases, so no need to go further than that.

As a side question, what about your route data (the macro you, not you personally, EarlyAdopter) does anyone really need to opt-out of? The truth is that there are numerous ways that any legitimate or illegitimate entity can use to track you, extremely precisely and utterly without your...

I think it is our civic duty and moral responsibility to assist him in remembering that awesome throwing down of the gauntlet. He was close to getting away with it ... I wonder if Elon whipped the coders even harder to try to beat it. Would you like Mayo with that hat, sir?

In my experience, the real car buffs I work with give me good-natured ribbing, and talk about beating the pants off my car ("I've got my Z06 in the repair shop to have the remains of a Tesla pulled out of my exhaust pipe..." LOL) but they also respect the hell out of hit and think it is...

100%. Unforunately, SolarCity will not work with SRP currently, and I am unwilling (currently) to work with another vendor. So although I'd LOVE to go that direction, the options are limited ATM.

It is done! MAN is that sexy.

FLAC? A 512 would hold most of my library - the stuff I'd actually want in my car anyway. But using the iTunes playlists-to-genre hack posted on this board, it has to store the same tune for as many times as it appears in playlists. So I can get sometimes 5 instances of the same file on the...

Supercharger@Rocky Point! (But what's with the warantee bit...?)

I'm 52, but my father was a professor at a local college and I was playing with the '370 terminals and getting credit for it by time I was 10. I was fascinated by 6502 assembly when my high school got an early, 4K Apple. Thought I'd died and gone to heaven. As the few that have posted here...

Flying, trade show trip. :/ But we'll knock it out when we get back - both of ours will be ready to go! Also hoping that members post lots of pix here so that we can live vicariously.

Exactly. I'll spend the next couple days shooling my wife up on her S70 (delivery tomorrow!) and that should keep us occupied waiting for 7. But alas, we'll both be out of town for a week, starting Thursday, and will not be able to upgrade immediately :/

That would completely rock :) As a side note, I have our photographer coming to do a special shoot for us, as I think this occasions deserves a little something special. I'll post it here when we get it done. - - - Updated - - - Thanks for the bump, MM3 - I got the credit and she did as well...

Well, because lordy - you sure sound like you'd have all that nailed. Had me scared there for a minute ;)

I had this exact same thing happen. I took the USB to my machine ... it was all there. Rebooted the car, re-inserted the drive and it all came back, but I had to endure the Preparing to Load Music bit. I think it's *probably* all good, but the OS is confused.

LOL the animated gif?

LOL@SGA. I really went from bonehead hacker to coder when we were in 4K on an Apple ][ in about '76. This was after a short stint in APL on an IBM System 370 with a card reader. Until you've had to *actually* write to memory in 6502 (or 8080, which was another favorite at the time) to effect a...

Never mind, I'm all good. Mods, please delete the thread as I cannot seem to.