When will Bonnie get her Model X?

[scottf200]

I predict Bonnie will convert her Signature reservation to a General Production reservation and wait for the fold down 2nd row.

 

[aesculus]

Even the Bonnie delivery thread has been hacked by seat-gate!:smile:

 

[Soolim]

I am one of the few that chose After December 1. In fact I would have been tempted to choose 2016 if that was an option.

There are many people here who are lot more informed than me. So I might very well be wrong. But FWIW here is my reasoning:

Looks like Tesla planned to release the car without 2nd row seat folding. But after seeing the reaction, they ought to fix this before release. I really see no way that signature folks get their cars without folding seats.

It's a HUGE issue for multiple reasons:
1) Elon promised that he will never ship a non-compelling car/product (this was when 40kWh was getting deprecated).
2) Elon promised that production car will always be better than demo cars. He mentioned this multiple times actually. In interviews/CCs and on twitter.
3) Many (uninformed) people will feel that it's a bait-and-switch to suddenly realize that the seats don't fold. What if people notice this well after taking delivery and are shocked? In this litigious society, opportunistic lawyers will certainly see blood in the water. Class-action lawsuits anyone? Sure Tesla can pre-empt this by "clearly" communicating this up-front before or during taking delivery. But clear communication seems to be the last thing Tesla is good at.
4) If many months later they fix this to boost demand, how will many signature holders feel with the wrong seats? They are promised, they are not given, then everybody else after them is given the right seats. This will not be right at so many levels.

In a nut shell, I fully expect them to fix the seats before the true launch (founders series doesn't count).

So now we are talking about back to the drawing board and re-designing the seats. Design, implement, test, productionise, and maybe multiple iterations of that actually. This will take several months.

For reference, Tesla took 6-months to launch the Titanium underbody from the first f!re incident, which should have promoted them to start exploring a solution. It's a seemingly simpler issue.

Put this all together, we have an early 2016 launch.

On a separate note, I am also very suspicious of all these cgi screenshots in the design studio. Why not real pictures? They didn't want a single photographer to be able to see the car? Ok, even if that's the case, nobody in-the-inside is capable of taking a decent picture? really?

Think about this, how much harder is generating a fake cgi picture, with a bike and everything, than a simple click on a camera? The only thing I can think of is that the car is not ready.

The signature MX will be launch in Nov 26 with non-folding seat:wink: simply because not every signature MX owners would want folding seat over sculpture seat. Signature MX owners will be afforded option to change to folding seat as a PAID option if and when folding seat becomes a reality.

 

[hobbes]

I predict Bonnie will convert her Signature reservation to a General Production reservation and wait for the fold down 2nd row.

Doesn´t look like that:

*snipped*

For the rest of you, I have confirmed Sig #2, order locked down, off we go. (And I did it all by myself without someone telling me what to pick. I knew what I wanted. Yep. Really.)

 

[SBenson]

The signature MX will be launch in Nov 26 with non-folding seat:wink: simply because not every signature MX owners would want folding seat over sculpture seat. Signature MX owners will be afforded option to change to folding seat as a PAID option if and when folding seat becomes a reality.

That precise date makes me ask. Is that a guess or known information? If known information, where did you get it from?

 

[scottf200]

Doesn´t look like that:

She's made enough comments to indicated how disappointed/concerned she is in the non-folding (less room) Model X 2nd row configuration (and that she's talking to Tesla about it) that she's going to get something different. Now or in the future. Mark my word.

 

[Fiver]

That precise date makes me ask. Is that a guess or known information? If known information, where did you get it from?

Clearly the car will launch on Thanksgiving because the media's attention will be elsewhere. No bad press about the seats if everyone is talking turkey!

 

[Hugh Mannity]

Clearly the car will launch on Thanksgiving because the media's attention will be elsewhere. No bad press about the seats if everyone is talking turkey!

canadian thanksgiving is in october, hopefully that is the time you are referring to !

 

[Mark Z]

Since everyone is speculating, I might as well put in my thoughts.

During the first major Model S rollout, the first cars were shipped to delivery points east.

Perhaps, IMHO, some Founders will get their key fobs and rollout their cars on the 29th. Then the first 10 or 15 Model X Signature could be shown coming off the line ready for delivery. Now that would make a lot of stockholders happy, allow plenty of news footage, and Bonnie would get her Model X a short time later at a delivery location of her choice.

I would love to see our new Tesla Model X Signatures on the 29th in any state of assembly or completion. The SoCal Sales and Delivery team is anxious to put the final touches on my Model X Signature as soon as it arrives for inspection, cleaning, paperwork and delivery.

 

[SBenson]

Bonnie, How much heads-up do you think you will get before actual delivery? I assume you still haven't gotten a delivery-date. Does it mean the actual delivery is 'at least' 2 weeks away? Do you have an ETA of when you might get a delivery-date?

 

[bonnie]

Bonnie, How much heads-up do you think you will get before actual delivery? I assume you still haven't gotten a delivery-date. Does it mean the actual delivery is 'at least' 2 weeks away? Do you have an ETA of when you might get a delivery-date?

I have no idea. My status is currently 'confirmed'.

 

[Grendal]

I have no idea. My status is currently 'confirmed'.

It's nice to be validated.

Go Bonnie!

I just voted October 1st to 15th in a supportive gesture.

 

[Super_Popular]

What's Bonnie going to do with the Roadster, once she gets her X?

 

[bonnie]

What's Bonnie going to do with the Roadster, once she gets her X?

I'm not sure yet. I've been contacted by a couple of people interested in buying, but I haven't made any decisions. The idea of letting go of it is hard - but I like the idea of having one vehicle (the X) in my garage, instead of two (Jeep + Roadster).

 

[Super_Popular]

I'm not sure yet. I've been contacted by a couple of people interested in buying, but I haven't made any decisions. The idea of letting go of it is hard - but I like the idea of having one vehicle (the X) in my garage, instead of two (Jeep + Roadster).

That would be hard. Maybe keep it for a few months after getting the X, just to make sure you like it. Either, which ever you decide to keep I am sure you could sell quickly.

 

[dhanson865]

That would be hard. Maybe keep it for a few months after getting the X, just to make sure you like it. Either, which ever you decide to keep I am sure you could sell quickly.

That sure is the upside of buying a Tesla, plenty of churn, all you have to do to sell quickly is price it right, want to sell quicker, just lower the price.

I was hoping Bonnie would get hers already but When I saw this thread last month I guessed after Dec 1 just because she has repeatedly said she hasn't been given a delivery estimate and I expect they'd give her several weeks to liquidate funds if she wants to pay in full or arrange financing in comfort if she wants to finance.

 

[petfansNetwork]

Bonnie, If I were you I would get rid of the Jeep and keep both the Roadster and the Model X.

When I get the Model X I'll get rid of a GX470 and a Prius. I'll keep the Model X and the Leaf which will be replaced by the Model 3.

 

[lodenthal]

Bonnie, you can't get rid of the Roadster! If only for sentimental reasons and because it's really, really fun! I do understand the desire to have fewer cars in your garage though....

 

[bonnie]

Bonnie, If I were you I would get rid of the Jeep and keep both the Roadster and the Model X.

When I get the Model X I'll get rid of a GX470 and a Prius. I'll keep the Model X and the Leaf which will be replaced by the Model 3.

The Jeep is definitely going. I haven't decided re the Roadster.

 

[FredTMC]

So Bonnie tweeted that her VIN got assigned today. So, can we assume that VIN assignment is a good indicator that production will begin "soon"? (e.g. this week)