Max Spaghetti
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Jugiong was broken both directions and is a single stall 50kW charger. Pretty location though...or Jugiong
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Jugiong was broken both directions and is a single stall 50kW charger. Pretty location though...or Jugiong
Food is great at the Sir George.stall 50kW charger
They can be, but not always. I did Yass and Goulburn on a recent trip just to check them out, but unless I was after a sit down meal and was passing through at a time of day/night where that was actually an option, I’d prefer a highway service station with charging (or other on-highway location with takeaway such as Heatherbrae’s pies/Gundagai dog on tuckerbox.
Yes, indeed. Both options is best.I think the ultimate solution is both, the middle of town is great, but its terrible at 2AM when its raining.
100% and take our Tesla hat off a few other manufactures have 50-80kw limits so spend more time charging.On the other hand, the local towns like Yass will be nuts not to have charging facilities as well - think of the business it brings to the town - sometimes I do want a "sit down lunch", or at least something that isn't McD's at a BP.
Agreed. The major issue is simply going to be acces to and cost of power.the major highway service stations will be nuts not to have charging facilities in due course -
Though most servos are located at arterial roads which one would assume is also near HV electricity distribution cables?Agreed. The major issue is simply going to be acces to and cost of power.
Just because you’ve got 275kV interconnectors beside arterial roads doesn’t mean it’s easy or cheap to jack into them unfortunately. Stepping it down via sub-stations to usable voltages is more common in commercial and industrial estates. So where those two overlap with major roads you’ve got a better chance I’d suggest.Though most servos are located at arterial roads which one would assume is also near HV electricity distribution cables?
On the other hand, the local towns like Yass will be nuts not to have charging facilities as well - think of the business it brings to the town - sometimes I do want a "sit down lunch", or at least something that isn't McD's at a BP.
I would think they would be also nearbyStepping it down via sub-stations to usable voltages is more common in commercial and industrial estates.
Most highway/motorway servos at located at on/off ramps for convenience of traffic access. They would not normally be near a substation unless by co-incidence, and may have to bring significant power over a significant distance. If it was a greenfields build that's one thing, but to upgrade an existing servo power supply to install a decent amount of EV charging with such a slow payback equation is likely problematic without subsidies.Though most servos are located at arterial roads which one would assume is also near HV electricity distribution cables?
That does not make sense. I cannot see how anyone would want to build a highway servo in a location that does not have significant power nearby or where power is economically available for their business model.They would not normally be near a substation unless by co-incidence, and may have to bring significant power over a significant distance.
That's what "dual carriageway" means. Two separated carriageways.My brother in law works for RMS and apparently the pollies commitment was dual lane from Sydney to QLD border. And the road through Coffs is actually dual lane all the way through all those roundabouts and traffic lights. Hence the Coffs bypass was never included in the list of road upgrades when they were doing all those sections of the Pacific Highway. Hence they technically could say it was "complete". Ridiculous really. Real life Utopia. Haha
That's what "dual carriageway" means. Two separated carriageways.
Look, I am no expert, but obviously there was power available for their business model, otherwise they wouldn't have built it. But upgrading that power supply to install a significant bank of DCFC chargers is a whole new business model, and the cost of that power upgrade may be significant.That does not make sense. I cannot see how anyone would want to build a highway servo in a location that does not have significant power nearby or where power is economically available for their business model.
Or not.power upgrade may be significant.
As I said, Highway stops are generally already occupied at very strategic locations and these locations already have incumbent operators who likely are planning their own DC fast charging - Ampol is one example in Australia. and BP at least in the USA have partnered with Tesla to supply the charging infrastructure. 7-11 in the US is introducing its own charging infrastructure.I'm only speculating. But ask yourself why Tesla build their Superchargers in commercial estates rather than on highways?
You seem hell bent on ignoring the reality of the existing power infrastructure. Why?Or not.
If you've never designed or quoted an 11kV feeder run, above or underground then how would you know just how expensive that is? Every job is unique, certainly, but I've done jobs where we moved the planned locations of buildings to save millions from shorter power feeds. ACSR and Copper aren't cheap, unfortunately. It's business. I'd rather make people drive an extra few kilometres to a charger site with direct access to existing power feeds than pay to bring those power feeds closer to a highway intersection or existing facilities that are a short walk away. Economically it could well be the difference between a charger being built, or not. I'd rather they were built, so I'll take that trade-off.You seem hell bent on ignoring the reality of the existing power infrastructure. Why?
What reality, unless you have specific information, both of us are speculating whether existing infrastructure is adequate for future expansion or not. You say no. I just take another view that it could be.You seem hell bent on ignoring the reality of the existing power infrastructure. Why?