If I remember correctly once I was able to configure my S I had 1 month to finalize, do we know if this will be the same with the X?
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If I remember correctly once I was able to configure my S I had 1 month to finalize, do we know if this will be the same with the X?
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Massive sig tax then, lol.
I had to pick up my Model S from the service center this morning. They've been sent a .pdf with information about Model X. The available dimension info: overall length: 198", overall width (mirrors extended) 89.4", overall height (doors closed) 66.3", ground clearance 7.2". Sig reservation holders will get an email inviting them to configure in order. Founders configured in August. Interior pictures all match what we've seen so we're seeing the final design.
Look at how the third row seats rest on a portion of the floor that is raised. My theory is that the second row seats rotate 90 degrees counterclockwise, drop flush to the floor and move forward so that the bottom of the second row is flush to the back of the front row.
The third row seats could then rotate forward and unfold so that they are flush with the floor beneath the third row seat. The floor of the cabin would be comprised of the bottom of the third row and the back of the third row. All the leather seating surfaces would be protected.
The hinge point of the third row rolling forward (clockwise) would be the bottom of the front of the seat.
Third row goes from this:
x
X
X
OOOo
_____
to this:
_____oOOOXXXx
So, the Model X will be 2 inches longer and a whopping 3.2 inches wider than the Model S, which is already a very wide car. Parking could be a challenge. But I am not sure how these dimensions compare to other SUVs...maybe not that different from the larger ones?
My bet is that the second row cup holders are integrated into the rear of the first row center console. Look closely at that are.Cup holders in the third row at least.
Width:
89.4" Tesla Model X
80.5" Chevrolet Tahoe
80.5" Cadillac Escalade
80.5" Ford Expedition
78.8" Lincoln Navigator
Look at how the third row seats rest on a portion of the floor that is raised. My theory is that the second row seats rotate 90 degrees counterclockwise, drop flush to the floor and move forward so that the bottom of the second row is flush to the back of the front row.
The third row seats could then rotate forward and unfold so that they are flush with the floor beneath the third row seat. The floor of the cabin would be comprised of the bottom of the third row and the back of the third row. All the leather seating surfaces would be protected.
The hinge point of the third row rolling forward (clockwise) would be the bottom of the front of the seat.
Third row goes from this:
x
X
X
OOOo
_____
to this:
_____oOOOXXXx
Which is exactly how something like say a Toyota Highlander has. Nothing earth shattering or controversial.My bet is that the second row cup holders are integrated into the rear of the first row center console. Look closely at that are.
I'm not an SUV kind of guy, but I have to admit to a little list for an X.
Look at how the third row seats rest on a portion of the floor that is raised. My theory is that the second row seats rotate 90 degrees counterclockwise, drop flush to the floor and move forward so that the bottom of the second row is flush to the back of the front row.
2nd row seat swivel
A lot of you seem to be forgetting to consider child/infant cart seats. Speaking as an adult with children, by far the biggest pain the butt with rear seats is dealing with car seats.
There is additional opportunity for innovation here beyond the swivel out seat idea that would be consistent with what we are seeing (although still highly speculative). For example, it might be possible that the 2nd row seats can tilt forward to face the floor to provide increased cargo room when needed, and if so it could do it without removing the infant car seats (in which case it should probably only be operable from the seat itself so that it would be next to impossible to do it with a baby in the seat).
Second, there are places where 2nd row cup holders could go, but most of the time, I would have child seats in the middle row, and if I needed some extra seats for adults, they would sit in the 3rd row. Now hopefully they were able to give the 3rd row enough head room, but I wouldn't count on it. But either way, I'm not removing the infant car seat if I don't have to, so any extra adults are going in the back. So cup holders in the back, good. Cup holders in the middle, don't care. Also, there might eventually be a middle seat console that can be used for extra storage and cup holders.
Third, it would be nice if there was a way to improve access for the 3rd row. If the 2nd row seats can tilt forward, that helps, but again you would have to tilt the entire seat because there will most likely be an infant seat there.
So the whole 2nd row not folding thing could be in no small part due to infant seats. You can't recline seats with infant seats in them, nor can you fold them, without removing the infant seat. Perhaps Tesla has integrated cool ways of making life with infant seats better, and that's reflected in the 2nd row design.
All of this is all just my own personal speculation based on what we see so far.
Dealing with children is a huge part of most adult's lives, and if Tesla is trying to cater the X to people with small children, it seems reasonable that finding ways to make hauling children easier would be high on the priority list for whatever magical miracle fairy dust seating they are trying to come up with.
Those numbers must be without mirrors because the 2016 Ford Explorer is 90.2" with mirrors.
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