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FSD V12 Elon Demo
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I think his perspective comes from an appreciation of the cumulative engineering work that's inherently behind the scenes.
Back in the 1990s when I was getting my EE degree, some friends and I took an ancient Oldsmobile POS and turned it into an EV with a bunch of scrap pb acid batteries, a forklift motor and a 486 motherboard. For most, pressing the accelerator would result in a somewhat feeble experience for the few miles the tired batteries would last. For us though, who breathed life in that kluge of a system, it was nothing short of a "mind blowing" miracle every time we drove it successfully.
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
So far the route seems pretty simple. I am not seeing any super complex edge cases. It is basically suburban driving. Having said that, the driving looks very smooth. It is handling roundabouts, pedestrians etc really well. Elon keeps reiterating that they did no hardcoding, V12 is inferring how to drive this new route based on the video training.
There have been a few spots where I noticed the car was driving over the left lane for a few seconds on turns, but no cars were present, it corrected, and I assume would be easily smoothed out by public release. The roundabouts were really impressive!
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
First intervention at a red light. I think the car thought the green light for the turn only lane was it's light so it started to go when it actually had a red. Elon says they will feed it more video of that scenario to train it.
So basically first intervention after only 20 minutes of driving. So it looks like intervention rate is very poor. I think the key will be how quickly the intervention rate improves with video training.
So basically first intervention after only 20 minutes of driving. So it looks like intervention rate is very poor. I think the key will be how quickly the intervention rate improves with video training.
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
Nice to see the car automatically pull over and park when it reached its destination. That is new that current FSD Beta does not do.
Hopefully would save me from some curb rash, but would be more impressive if it would parallel park for me at the end
Good that you folks are describing this as I cannot watch since I am not on X and never will be (no I don’t care if it’s free.)
The control network seems to have learned appropriate driving speed for the current road ignoring the set speed (seemed like it was at 85mph the whole time). It also happened to switch into the lane with fewer cars waiting at a red light, so maybe it learned that people switch lanes when approaching red lights?
I didn't quite catch the full discussion around NHTSA recall requiring complete stops where Elon Musk and Ashok Elluswamy were talking about under 5% of drivers behave that way. Were they saying they needed to oversample the training data with examples of full stops to comply with NHTSA before wide release?
Overall indeed pretty impressive that all of it's handled by neural networks without explicit control logic for lanes and objects. Hopefully that will address many issues related to lane selection and merges, etc.
I didn't quite catch the full discussion around NHTSA recall requiring complete stops where Elon Musk and Ashok Elluswamy were talking about under 5% of drivers behave that way. Were they saying they needed to oversample the training data with examples of full stops to comply with NHTSA before wide release?
Overall indeed pretty impressive that all of it's handled by neural networks without explicit control logic for lanes and objects. Hopefully that will address many issues related to lane selection and merges, etc.
fasteddie7
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It does something like that for me now. There is a road where the cross traffic comes at a slight angle and when their light turns green, FSDb starts to run the red light that is in front of it into cross traffic. it seems if it’s in the left lane, the light to the left is the one it uses to decide to go, in this case, it’s the light signaling cross traffic.
Dirty Tesla did a live stream of it on YouTube. It's potato quality through and through, but you can get a sense of the drive. Be prepared for a switch from landscape to portrait video. Bleh.
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