Fisker Surf (Karma wagon)

[dpeilow]

Frankfurt 2011: Dramatic Fisker Surf makes waves


This car is unbelievably wrong. It's all I can do to keep my dinner down.

 

[vfx]

Frankfurt 2011: Dramatic Fisker Surf makes waves


This car is unbelievably wrong. It's all I can do to keep my dinner down.

It's not that bad but the form suffers for the problem they are trying to solve. And it's not even that well solved.

They spelled it wrong. It's the suffer.

C 2011

 

[doug]

It's not that bad but the form suffers for the problem they are trying to solve. And it's not even that well solved.

Exactly.

 

[doug]

Fisker Surf concept is plug-in family-minded luxury

Fisker Surf: Frankfurt 2011

 

[doug]

Fisker Surf Rear Interior | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

 

[doug]

Fisker Surf: Because the still-not-for-sale Karma needed a wagon

 

[vfx]

So it costs more.


Are those jumper cables.

Really?

 

[malcolm]

I really don't understand the USP of this vehicle.

Technology?
Pasenger/Cargo space?
Styling?

None of it seems to be working.

Of course the "S" in USP is a moot point with Fisker.

 

[bonnie]

Ugly car. Bad karma.

 

[doug]

Are those jumper cables.

Really?

Yeah, I wonder what they were doing there.

Of course the "S" in USP is a moot point with Fisker.

Well, they should at least be able to S a few...

 

[doug]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lkov44-C2o

 

[AnOutsider]

Still ugly, and that video does nothing to make it seem quick or sporty -- in fact, it looks like they're babying it. What exactly is this car accomplishing?

 

[doug]

I fully expect the Fisker SUV to look like the (beloved) cat bus from Tonari no Totoro.

 

[domenick]

Agree. The sketch looks more like a proper shooting brake (which would be a two-door).

EXACTLY! This is my shooting brake pet peeve. To me, give it 4 doors and it's station wagon. In this case, a weird-looking, non-functional station wagon.

They should have stuck to the sketch.

 

[ljbad4life]

Anyone else notice that the surf has a sunroof?

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/fisker-surf-frankfurt-2011/full/#photo-4440821/

 

[doug]

Anyone else notice that the surf has a sunroof?

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/fisker-surf-frankfurt-2011/full/#photo-4440821/

Yeah, I noticed the button for it here: Fisker Surf Shooting Brake

Does it have the solar roof option which comes standard on the Karma?

 

[dpeilow]

If they ever do a remake of Ghostbusters...

 

[ljbad4life]

Yeah, I noticed the button for it here: Fisker Surf Shooting Brake

Does it have the solar roof option which comes standard on the Karma?

I'm confused by what the Autoblog (and a later press release) stated:

Whereas the exterior rear roof-mounted solar panel on the Karma is a 120-watt gathering unit, the available panel for the Surf is a 133-watt unit. The sturdy black plastic grille insert is a new look, as are the very sharp new 22-inch standard wheels. Fisker is currently working with an outside supplier to create an easy roof rack system to slide into the standard aluminum roof rails.

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/09/13/fisker-surf-shooting-brake-wows-frankfurt-show/

Does that mean if it's in the rear portion of the roof of the Surf you can have both a sunroof and the solar roof? or is that a complete error (since there is no "rear" to the solar roof, it's completely covers the roof ) and you have to choose one or the other as an option.

After looking at some pictures, it seems that you might be able to have both. if you look at the photos of the top of the Surf for the back looking forward. there is clearly black glass like structure right near the rear hatch. but if you look at the photos of the open hatch (interior), look at the top, there is no light coming from the top and the top is lined with fabric.

 

[doug]

Does that mean if it's in the rear portion of the roof of the Surf you can have both a sunroof and the solar roof?

That's what it sounds like to me. "Rear roof-mounted solar panel" would only makes sense for the Surf. So Autoblog probably screwed up with the standard blogger miscommunication. I actually read through several blogs and got a lot of conflicting information. The best I could find was this which appears to be directly from a Fisker press release: http://car-gallery.info/blog/car-press-release/fisker-surf-at-2011-frankfurt-iaa/

The unique solar roof panel that is a Fisker signature has been integrated into the Fisker Surf, with a few twists. The optional solar panel not only captures sunlight to power the car, it is actually see-through, with a dark-tint translucence that adds to the sense of openness inside the car, specifically in the rear seats. Standard is a tinted-glass panoramic roof panel that tilts open at the back for added ventilation.

So seems it's not really slide back and open like a sunroof. Just tilts open as a vent.

 

[dpeilow]

According to Parker's this is already using a BMW engine.

Frankfurt 2011: Top 10 green cars - Parkers