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Electric Infinities
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JRP3
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Just a general statement that the voltage requirements of an EV can be met by different battery technologies. There may be differences in performance with a different pack but should be close to original. Since this would likely happen a number of years in the future chances are performance would improve.
stopcrazypp
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There are still ways to impede third party batteries if their intentions really were sinister. So far only licensed dealerships can get into the firmware of cars and legislation intended to allow third party garages to also service the firmware has failed to pass. Unless the battery was a direct replacement with the same specs, you can't do whatever software tweaks necessary to get the onboard charger and power electronics to work correctly with your pack. And even if it was a direct replacement, they can have the computer identify if a battery is OEM.
Of course a hobbyist like you can put in your own charger and controller if it ever gets to that point, but most people won't go to that length.
However, if a manufacturer is putting the car up for sale, I don't think they will repeat the whole EV1 thing again, so this is all theoretical. But it is still unclear if they will allow third party batteries and/or if a third party battery market will pop up.
SteveTheTech
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Batteries that would be interchangeable or replaceable with a third party unit might offer short term benefits but I doubt there will be any offerings that fit everything, at least in the foreseeable future. Every vehicle will have a different (mostly) setup and cooling system.
What I think would be a better idea would be a program similar to Zipcar for batteries. Where you might not "own" the battery but you can use and exchange a new one as needed, if you plan on going on a trip take a larger capacity unit.....Today the battery is still ~900lbs and costs more than a Prius so that is a little far off.
I would imagine once the first run of batteries are replaced there will be enough to "rebuild" and basically create a new battery, so it will take a few years and how each company deals with this will determine the long term success of mass market EVs. I know that with typical hybrids the company tends to require the core, for every unit they sell and in most cases the car has be able to recognize the battery. I know that that holds true if most computers on the LAN network are replaced in Nissans at least.
What I think would be a better idea would be a program similar to Zipcar for batteries. Where you might not "own" the battery but you can use and exchange a new one as needed, if you plan on going on a trip take a larger capacity unit.....Today the battery is still ~900lbs and costs more than a Prius so that is a little far off.
I would imagine once the first run of batteries are replaced there will be enough to "rebuild" and basically create a new battery, so it will take a few years and how each company deals with this will determine the long term success of mass market EVs. I know that with typical hybrids the company tends to require the core, for every unit they sell and in most cases the car has be able to recognize the battery. I know that that holds true if most computers on the LAN network are replaced in Nissans at least.
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
People routinely change out or add onto the factory Prius packs to create a plug in hybrid. Even replacing NiMH with Lithium.
ljbad4life
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Old article predicting what might be coming:
2014 Infiniti Electric Sedan - Feature - Auto Reviews - Car and Driver
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(Sometimes I think the artists doing renderings for car magazines ought to be the ones designing the cars!)
2014 Infiniti Electric Sedan - Feature - Auto Reviews - Car and Driver
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(Sometimes I think the artists doing renderings for car magazines ought to be the ones designing the cars!)
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Cross posting something seen today on MNL:
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rolosrevenge
Dr. EVS
Once the Infinity and the Model S comes out, I expect there to be some nice cheap 2011 Leafs on the market based on the demographics of the people buying them.
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