Various thoughts on Model S

[PhatCat]

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FWIW, I suspect that superchargers will get less use than most people expect. I subscribe to DavidM's implied point here and believe that although we need a network of Superchargers to assuage range-anxiety and change general thinking, few of us will use them very often.

As soon as the Supercharger network is fully operational I plan to take a month and drive the entire route.

 

[brianman]

Todd, I had had the impression with my first call that this was to be imposed on only 60kWh users, but my second call's specialist suggested all users would be charged for Supercharge use, whatever the cost structure. I am not confident anyone knows, except The Board. Brian in response to your note [This aligns with what I had guessed months ago. Good to see they went the route of "85 benefit is saving on usage cost" rather than "85 benefit is more technology in the vehicle" (with respect to Supercharging).], I am not totally sure what you mean - comment would be welcome.

I thought I was pretty clear, but hopefully someone else can help clarify / rephrase.

 

[Norbert]

DavidM's implied point here[/URL] and believe that although we need a network of Superchargers to assuage range-anxiety and change general thinking, few of us will use them very often.

These discussions usually and eventually arrive at the term "second car"... it seems DavidM was clever enough to include it in his first post. If a thread from a while ago was representative, most current Model S reservation holders (on this forum) are buying the Model S as a second car (or third) car. The sooner the "second car" image dissolves, the better.

 

[MikeK]

I am selling both of my cars when I buy the Model S. It will be my only car.

 

[jerry33]

The Model S will be my primary car.

 

[Zythryn]

... If a thread from a while ago was representative, most current Model S reservation holders (on this forum) are buying the Model S as a second car (or third) car. The sooner the "second car" image dissolves, the better.

the Roadster is currently my primary car, the Model S will also be my primary car. And, that is without any SC network. Never needed it, and probably never will.

 

[Liz G]

These discussions usually and eventually arrive at the term "second car"... it seems DavidM was clever enough to include it in his first post. If a thread from a while ago was representative, most current Model S reservation holders (on this forum) are buying the Model S as a second car (or third) car. The sooner the "second car" image dissolves, the better.

I too will be using my S as my primary car.

I'm only keeping my Subaru Baja, because I have 2 very large dogs that will never set foot in my S.

 

[bonnie]

Most two-adult households have two primary cars - and from what I've seen in various threads, Model S will be one of those two primary daily drivers. I've kept a Prius as a secondary car (like Liz, I have dogs) & my Roadster is my primary driver. Including roadtrips (with no SC option). When my Model X is parked in the garage, the Prius will be gone. And I have no idea which one (Roadster v. Model X) will become my daily driver.

 

[Tempus]

the model S will definitely be my primary car. My wife's car is still an ICE at this point, but ideally when she is ready to replace that a few years down the line, we'll be comfortable enough (and the infrastructure will be built out enough) that there won't be any second thoughts about going all electric (and hopefully bluestar will be ready then).

 

[Tommy]

Whether to call the S the primary car vs secondary car reminds me a bit of the picture showing a house and how the bank, appraiser and a homeowner see the same property through their own lens. In the primary/secondary label of the S: it's my primary car however as far as how I portray it to my insurance company, it's the secondary car in the household. Let's hope they see it the same way.

 

[Norbert]

Whether to call the S the primary car vs secondary car reminds me a bit of the picture showing a house and how the bank, appraiser and a homeowner see the same property through their own lens. In the primary/secondary label of the S: it's my primary car however as far as how I portray it to my insurance company, it's the secondary car in the household. Let's hope they see it the same way.

What I was referring to, is the concern that in addition to an EV (without well-functioning fast-charging network), many people think they need an ICE or PHEV. The question which one you drive more often, is a different one.

 

[ModelS1079]

Tesla New York City Special Event: Motor Trend Award (The Road to Fremont)

Tesla New York City Special Event: Motor Trend Award

Here's a rather personalized look at the event, and the road there. Enjoy.
Many thanks to TeslaGuy, who got me there, but somehow managed to evade all photographic proof he exists...

http://animoto.com/play/lZ6sLthMXN1HU907C2cTJw

 

[cinergi]

Tesla New York City Special Event: Motor Trend Award

Here's a rather personalized look at the event, and the road there. Enjoy.
Many thanks to TeslaGuy, who got me there, but somehow managed to evade all photographic proof he exists...

http://animoto.com/play/lZ6sLthMXN1HU907C2cTJw

Pretty cool, thank you!

 

[JakeP]

Very cool. Loved the "Dad's Tesla Fund" panhandling shots, and the cameo of Cinergi with his Livestream rig back with the press corps!

 

[ModelS1079]

Pretty cool, thank you!

Cinergi, check out the Boston pics carefully - I was surprised - and not at all surprised - to learn now that we were there that day together, before I knew (the much esteemed) Cinergi.

 

[cinergi]

Cinergi, check out the Boston pics carefully - I was surprised - and not at all surprised - to learn now that we were there that day together, before I knew (the much esteemed) Cinergi.

Hehe yeah I saw those flash by :smile:
I thought we met at the Natick store -- or were those photos before we met that day?

 

[ModelS1079]

Cinergi, appears you met brother Jay in early 2010, and yu and I met at the Boston Auto-museum event, Natick opening, and a little shindig in NYC, live-streamed by some zealot to the world.

 

[ModelS1079]

QUESTION ABOUT MODEL S SEATS:
Anyone else finding them stiff? I am having a little right thigh pain from the seat being hard there. Wondering if this is just me. Not an issue if I shift alittle, but seems I should not have to do that. Feedback welcome. Else, the car remians amazing.

 

[jerry33]

QUESTION ABOUT MODEL S SEATS:
Anyone else finding them stiff? I am having a little right thigh pain from the seat being hard there. Wondering if this is just me. Not an issue if I shift alittle, but seems I should not have to do that. Feedback welcome. Else, the car remians amazing.

Not enough hours in the Model S yet. However, my thought is that you can adjust the seat to fix this.

 

[EdA]

This has probably been covered elsewhere but as I'm just about to hit 4k miles and recently did my first road trip here's what I learned:

- The speedometer reports a higher speed than being driven (confirmed with service manager this morning)
- Nissan dealers are invaluable
- 120V charging is useless
- Even a 2 minute test drive produces the Tesla grin on everyone in the car, including me
- Still missing my parcel shelf...

/Ed