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And it has been for years!The mS interior refresh is imminent !!!
Maybe Tesla should start taking deposits for the redesigned Model S?
Anyone notice the change today on Tesla's website? I'm hopeful that there will be a refresh in 2018, but I'm thinking that if they update the website with the same model S, then there will likely be no refresh anytime soon. Thoughts?
The question after that, in my mind, is their design department deep enough to handle a significant S refresh while also sprinting to finalize the Y design? I don't know the answer to that but it strikes me as a critical question.
With my 9 trips to the SVC for all the problems I’ve had, I wrote a four page letter to Elon himself detailing everything and letting him know how horribly displeased I am with my car. I got an email from headquarters apologizing and saying that they hoped I would stay a customer because there are some “very exciting things comimg from the engineers for the cars, especially Autopilot and fully autonomous driving.”
Uuuummmmm. My car is an AP1 and will never be able to be a fully autonomous vehicle so what they’re really saying is....even though you hate your car, come spend a ton more money so you can try these new bells and whistles. I totally agree with some of the previous comments. They always make grandiose promises to keep people buying and coming back for more.
Exactly!......... What is the competition? I have yet to see a electric car that can compete with what Tesla is offering today.Meanwhile their competition have in 2018 yet to make an EV as sophisticated as a 2012 model S.
I see that their Model S submenu seems to be very updated, which I presume is what you're talking about.Anyone notice the change today on Tesla's website? I'm hopeful that there will be a refresh in 2018, but I'm thinking that if they update the website with the same model S, then there will likely be no refresh anytime soon. Thoughts?
Mazda has 46k employees. Subaru has 15k employees. Tesla 33k employees.
Subaru doesn't own its distribution network but it does have a defense/aerospace division.
Tesla better be able to walk and chew gum at the same time.
Tesla Motors creating all electric sedans and SUVs from scratch the likes no one has seen before, soon to include Semis and pickups and baddest ass super car, and are newbies at it, including developing a worldwide charging network, their own sales and service worldwide, building Gigafactory and more of those to come, building the machine that builds the machine, fighting to be able to sell directly to the consumer in several states, staying vertically integrated on a level that no other OEM has been in many, many, many decades, and Tesla Energy, Tesla Network, Tesla Solar...
Buddy, they are walking, chewing gum, singing a tune, texting and solving the world’s self-destruction. There is no time or resources available for a refresh anytime soon. Mazda and Subaru are dragging their butts so badly right now, maybe you ought to call them up and ask them where their Model S competitor car refresh is.
That was sort of my thinking. Having 10's of thousands of employees doesn't exempt you from in-house talent resource crush. A number of year ago (maybe 6 or so?) Apple was having a lot of trouble managing OSX & iOS development at the same time, because they just couldn't simultaneously do both at full speed. They had 60,000 or so employees at the time, IIRC, but 10's of thousands of them weren't working either project and while they had 1000's working on each product, key talent was shared between the two because they were so very similar tasks (iOS was created by branching off a variant of OSX).
Eventually, oven the years, Apple has been able to run both development rather than having to heavily tick-tock between them by hiring/training up enough people. They now have employment across the entire company at roughly 125K, BTW.
That is the kind of crunch I was wondering about here, if internally Tesla may not have the talent pool yet for a fully twinned team to do a full scale job of bringing the M3 advances to the more luxurious frame of the S while at the same time handling the Y....on top of all that other stuff.
My guess: No refresh until Model 3 options and availability start to cannibalize Model S sales. On the recent investor call, Musk said interest in and orders for S and X are actually up as Model 3 brings people into stores. So no reason to divert resources to a S/X refresh in the immediate future. That said, I do think the refresh is coming this year, just more likely towards Q4.