I've owned a 2017 X90D since May of 2019. I bought it on 35k miles, it's now on about 41k.
There is lots about the car I love. Free unlimited supercharging and being able to charge the car at home for next to no money is fantastic. I think I'm probably saving between £3-5k a year on running costs (fuel, London congestion charge, ULEZ, road tax). It's also a nice car to sit on the motorway in and the space inside is great. I also like that I'm no longer locally polluting and fully believe that electric is the future (I have a business converting classic cars to electric).
I guess, all that being said, several experiences I've had with the Tesla recently make me worry about how feasible they are for most people.
Yesterday is a good example. I left the house charged to 90%, which should give me 213 miles (not the 230 miles it was advertised to be which is an issue, I think)
I drove 122 miles to Bristol (not in rush hour) to visit family. Quite a lot of the journey was through an average speed check (maybe 1/3rd) so I was limited to 50mph or so and when not restricted I drove at between 70-80mph (some on autopilot). When I arrived in Bristol the range was displayed as 38 miles range. Now, 213-122 is 91 so I'm missing around 50 miles of range or around 24% of the total battery capacity. This seemed excessive to me. I should have had around 91 miles of range left. I would have been happy with 60 as that would have gotten me back to a supercharger en route back to London the next day. I left the car parked with Sentry mode automatically turned off due to low battery. I checked the range on my phone an hour later and it had further dropped to just 25 miles. I'm now missing 66 miles of range and was a bit worried about if I would be able to get to the closer Cribbs Causeway supercharger in the morning if the range keeps dropping. So I offered to go and do a food shop and go to Cribbs Causeway to charge the car.
Cribbs Causeway is a charger I've had issues with in the past. I've had issues with low peak charging rates at lots of superchargers but this one takes the biscuit. The first time I went there, I peaked at 19kW charge rate. The second time I went there I couldn't charge because someone had parked a Model X in one of the bays without charging. It was a week before xmas and very busy so there was a queue of around 5 cars waiting to use the one bay. The parked model X was still there when I left a few hours later. I had plugged my car into one of the 3 pin plugs next to the chargers and just about had enough range to continue my journey. I raised this with the Tesla store inside the shopping mall who said there was nothing they could do (this sort of teflon shoulder shrugging/lack of ownership just generally annoys me). I drove there yesterday with 25 miles left on the car. It's a 6 mile journey but when I got to the charger I was down to 5 miles range. Pretty nervy stuff. I had to wait for about 15 mins and then both chargers freed up at the same time. I plugged the car in for about an hour, peaked at 79kW and got 160 miles range on the clock. Tesla advertises those chargers as 120kW. If you read all the reviews on the various apps, it sounds like 80kW is the highest anyone has seen. Annoying and misleading. Managing expectations is so much easier than sowing resentment. The car was down to 140 miles range after the 6 mile drive back to the house. It's now on 142 miles. Huh?
The drive to Bristol was also demonstrative of some other issues with the car. To me, right now, Autopilot on my car is basically unusable at speeds above 50mph. The lane changes are nerve wracking. It's reasonably common for the car to get spooked by something imaginary halfway through a lane change, abort it, then abruptly swerve back into the original lane. Anyone that was asleep in the car is now awake and screaming. The way it changes lane is deeply unnerving. The first thing the car does when you initiate the lane change is to reduce acceleration enough for regen to kick in and hesitate. So, you are merging into an overtaking lane with faster moving traffic and the first thing the car does is slow down. This seems so fundamentally wrong to me and the exact opposite of what should occur in order to smoothly merge into traffic. It makes you feel vulnerable to approaching traffic from behind and certainly doesn't make you feel 'relaxed and refreshed' at the end of a journey. I think the mental taxation of getting the car to change lane also means I do it less, which encourages middle lane hogging.
The car ping pongs from side to side within the lane and, when stable, prefers to be on the left of the lane so that the driver is in the middle of the lane. This makes passes feel much too close and just feels like it's reducing the margin for error on the part of other road users. I've also experienced other common issues discussed on this forum, such as phantom braking and late braking behind slowing traffic. The self parking feature does not work in the tight spaces of London and if you did try to use it, I think you'd be putting a new set of tyres on every few months due to the amount of dry steering.
I wont go too much into build quality but suffice to say all the seats in my car rock back and forth. They are repairing two and replacing one. The whole heating system had to be replaced and most of the cameras have water ingress so will need to be replaced. There are other issues too.
I just inquired about purchasing an extended warranty only to be told that Tesla no longer sells them in the UK, so I'll have to go third party. That pretty much tells me what I need to know about how expensive these cars would be to maintain personally out of warranty.
This is a big rant and I apologise for that. I think I'm mostly annoyed because I want this car to be great, but it is not. It is good-ish. I think a lot of issues are just a result of Tesla not managing expectations and promising the world (FSD anyone?) which is something they hopefully grow out of.
The stories I've told here seem to happen in different variations on most journeys. Don't even get me started on the charging network outside of Tesla Superchargers.
I am just wondering if it would be less faff to swap it for a Mercedes E63 or a Range Rover. Has anyone else had similar thoughts?
There is lots about the car I love. Free unlimited supercharging and being able to charge the car at home for next to no money is fantastic. I think I'm probably saving between £3-5k a year on running costs (fuel, London congestion charge, ULEZ, road tax). It's also a nice car to sit on the motorway in and the space inside is great. I also like that I'm no longer locally polluting and fully believe that electric is the future (I have a business converting classic cars to electric).
I guess, all that being said, several experiences I've had with the Tesla recently make me worry about how feasible they are for most people.
Yesterday is a good example. I left the house charged to 90%, which should give me 213 miles (not the 230 miles it was advertised to be which is an issue, I think)
I drove 122 miles to Bristol (not in rush hour) to visit family. Quite a lot of the journey was through an average speed check (maybe 1/3rd) so I was limited to 50mph or so and when not restricted I drove at between 70-80mph (some on autopilot). When I arrived in Bristol the range was displayed as 38 miles range. Now, 213-122 is 91 so I'm missing around 50 miles of range or around 24% of the total battery capacity. This seemed excessive to me. I should have had around 91 miles of range left. I would have been happy with 60 as that would have gotten me back to a supercharger en route back to London the next day. I left the car parked with Sentry mode automatically turned off due to low battery. I checked the range on my phone an hour later and it had further dropped to just 25 miles. I'm now missing 66 miles of range and was a bit worried about if I would be able to get to the closer Cribbs Causeway supercharger in the morning if the range keeps dropping. So I offered to go and do a food shop and go to Cribbs Causeway to charge the car.
Cribbs Causeway is a charger I've had issues with in the past. I've had issues with low peak charging rates at lots of superchargers but this one takes the biscuit. The first time I went there, I peaked at 19kW charge rate. The second time I went there I couldn't charge because someone had parked a Model X in one of the bays without charging. It was a week before xmas and very busy so there was a queue of around 5 cars waiting to use the one bay. The parked model X was still there when I left a few hours later. I had plugged my car into one of the 3 pin plugs next to the chargers and just about had enough range to continue my journey. I raised this with the Tesla store inside the shopping mall who said there was nothing they could do (this sort of teflon shoulder shrugging/lack of ownership just generally annoys me). I drove there yesterday with 25 miles left on the car. It's a 6 mile journey but when I got to the charger I was down to 5 miles range. Pretty nervy stuff. I had to wait for about 15 mins and then both chargers freed up at the same time. I plugged the car in for about an hour, peaked at 79kW and got 160 miles range on the clock. Tesla advertises those chargers as 120kW. If you read all the reviews on the various apps, it sounds like 80kW is the highest anyone has seen. Annoying and misleading. Managing expectations is so much easier than sowing resentment. The car was down to 140 miles range after the 6 mile drive back to the house. It's now on 142 miles. Huh?
The drive to Bristol was also demonstrative of some other issues with the car. To me, right now, Autopilot on my car is basically unusable at speeds above 50mph. The lane changes are nerve wracking. It's reasonably common for the car to get spooked by something imaginary halfway through a lane change, abort it, then abruptly swerve back into the original lane. Anyone that was asleep in the car is now awake and screaming. The way it changes lane is deeply unnerving. The first thing the car does when you initiate the lane change is to reduce acceleration enough for regen to kick in and hesitate. So, you are merging into an overtaking lane with faster moving traffic and the first thing the car does is slow down. This seems so fundamentally wrong to me and the exact opposite of what should occur in order to smoothly merge into traffic. It makes you feel vulnerable to approaching traffic from behind and certainly doesn't make you feel 'relaxed and refreshed' at the end of a journey. I think the mental taxation of getting the car to change lane also means I do it less, which encourages middle lane hogging.
The car ping pongs from side to side within the lane and, when stable, prefers to be on the left of the lane so that the driver is in the middle of the lane. This makes passes feel much too close and just feels like it's reducing the margin for error on the part of other road users. I've also experienced other common issues discussed on this forum, such as phantom braking and late braking behind slowing traffic. The self parking feature does not work in the tight spaces of London and if you did try to use it, I think you'd be putting a new set of tyres on every few months due to the amount of dry steering.
I wont go too much into build quality but suffice to say all the seats in my car rock back and forth. They are repairing two and replacing one. The whole heating system had to be replaced and most of the cameras have water ingress so will need to be replaced. There are other issues too.
I just inquired about purchasing an extended warranty only to be told that Tesla no longer sells them in the UK, so I'll have to go third party. That pretty much tells me what I need to know about how expensive these cars would be to maintain personally out of warranty.
This is a big rant and I apologise for that. I think I'm mostly annoyed because I want this car to be great, but it is not. It is good-ish. I think a lot of issues are just a result of Tesla not managing expectations and promising the world (FSD anyone?) which is something they hopefully grow out of.
The stories I've told here seem to happen in different variations on most journeys. Don't even get me started on the charging network outside of Tesla Superchargers.
I am just wondering if it would be less faff to swap it for a Mercedes E63 or a Range Rover. Has anyone else had similar thoughts?