Silicon Desert
Well-Known Member
I guess it is just me, but naming a model of a Ford as the "lightning" seems odd especially for a truck. Now if it were a Ferrari Lightning or a Porsche Lightning then that would make more sense.
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Uh, no. There is no real CT basic design yet. Tesla just removed the CT delivery time from 2022 entirely. Ford will begin delivering trucks in the Spring. CT still does not have a production battery form, and both LG and Panasonic are pushing back on design and production issues. And the exoskeleton design will not come close to meeting basic safety standard in U.S. and EU for pedestrians. Basic elements like the flat windshield simply do not work in the indicated scale (flat windshield went out in the 60's due to skittering wiper blades - you need an arc to do it properly), and they have not been able to figure out what to do about sweeping that windshield size. This is fundamental. And then there's the cost issue - Elon has indicated it would cost close to $1 million/copy as originally presented. No WAY it can be done in stainless for $55k or even $100k, or even $200k. Not a close call. CT in 2022? Probably not even in 2023. Check the Tesla website - subtly updated. I have a reservation but will be driving my Lightning for at least a year before having to decide...I don’t see anyone beating Tesla with truck to Market at this point of time including handful employees delivered Rivians.
Still hopeful that DM CT will start at 55k.
Ford is not delivering anything spring of 2022.
You prove me wrong once it is actually delivered.Ford is taking orders starting tomorrow. Job 1 is schedule for April 4th, it’s time to face reality.
You prove me wrong once it is actually delivered.
No, not yet. I went there a week after reserving the truck. IWelcome aboard!
Have you heard anything from your preferred dealership yet? You might want to discuss pricing (dealer markups) to get that out of the way now to see if you're going to stay with them. Some dealerships are not marking up the truck, and others are asking crazy markups.
Denial is not just a river in Egypt...I don’t see anyone beating Tesla with truck to Market at this point of time including handful employees delivered Rivians.
Still hopeful that DM CT will start at 55k.
We shall see, we shall seeDenial is not just a river in Egypt...
100%. well put.Uh, no. There is no real CT basic design yet. Tesla just removed the CT delivery time from 2022 entirely. Ford will begin delivering trucks in the Spring. CT still does not have a production battery form, and both LG and Panasonic are pushing back on design and production issues. And the exoskeleton design will not come close to meeting basic safety standard in U.S. and EU for pedestrians. Basic elements like the flat windshield simply do not work in the indicated scale (flat windshield went out in the 60's due to skittering wiper blades - you need an arc to do it properly), and they have not been able to figure out what to do about sweeping that windshield size. This is fundamental. And then there's the cost issue - Elon has indicated it would cost close to $1 million/copy as originally presented. No WAY it can be done in stainless for $55k or even $100k, or even $200k. Not a close call. CT in 2022? Probably not even in 2023. Check the Tesla website - subtly updated. I have a reservation but will be driving my Lightning for at least a year before having to decide...
100%. well put.
Unlike other Tesla reveals... the Cybertruck shown was *truly* a prototype with obvious production issues not thought through or solved at reveal.
Can Tesla solve them? Sure.
Is it the best way to spend resources? Doubtful.
With Rivian / the F150 / Silverado EV up and coming and likely an electric RAM as well ... the truck market for EVs will be crowded and Ford/GM/RAM all have loyal followers and functionality wise I don't see the CT being superior to the F150. I really don't. *cool* looks and bullet proof steel panels don't compensate for a shorter bed, no storage space in the frunk area etc
Who said anything about no storage at the frunk in CT. More talk out of the rear again? Love how you pretend that all the competition already have existing trucks in production. Too funny.
Oh I see nice PR pic with paid article to boost the stock. Cool story!You are in denial. It's o.k though. There are at least 6 Lightnings going down the production line in this picture
Electric Truck Wars: Ford Doubles Down on F-150 Lightning Production
Ford now looks like the electric truck leader, thanks to massive F-150 Lightning preorders and scaled-up production.gearjunkie.com
or the yokeNot to mention the spartan interior which is not going to cut it.
Tesla deleting all pricing info and production start info from their site isn't "fake" news...By the way I personally like F150s and I do hope Ford can make a good Electric pick up. What I don’t like is people trashing Tesla in general for some silly reasons and making fake news comments about CT.
Oh I see nice PR pic with paid article to boost the stock. Cool story!