Autopilot and v7 coming this Thursday! (15-10-15)

[wk057]

There are going to be a lot of people setting their alarms for 4am to check their Tesla dashboard for an "update" message this Thurs/Fri/Sat and on and on until it comes. I will be late for work the day my update arrives as I'm definitely updating "NOW".

Its going to be like Christmas morning, only you're not sure which day Christmas is coming...

I still have my alerts setup for when my car is downloading something for more than a few seconds over WiFi. Rest assured I'll be immediately installing.

 

[mspohr]

Volvo, Google and Mercedes-Benz have all announced that they would accept full liability for self-driving care accidents.

Companies To Accept Liability For Self-Driving Car Accidents | The Daily Caller

 

[green1]

Volvo, Google and Mercedes-Benz have all announced that they would accept full liability for self-driving care accidents.

Companies To Accept Liability For Self-Driving Car Accidents | The Daily Caller

And just like tesla, none of them will release a self driving car for many years to come, so it's hardly relevant to this thread.

 

[andrewket]

(I bought it to use the Tesla as an office now and again, not to use while driving BTW)

It fits my Sequoia but not the Tesla.

Completely get this use case. I've put my seat back and used my laptop many times at a supercharger.

 

[mspohr]

And just like tesla, none of them will release a self driving car for many years to come, so it's hardly relevant to this thread.

I think the precedent has been set by these statements and the auto companies are realizing that it would be difficult to escape liability.
As far as the difference between "self driving car" and "autopilot", this is just a matter of degree of autonomy, not a qualitative difference. They both have the car making decisions and controlling itself.

 

[green1]

I think the precedent has been set by these statements and the auto companies are realizing that it would be difficult to escape liability.
As far as the difference between "self driving car" and "autopilot", this is just a matter of degree of autonomy, not a qualitative difference. They both have the car making decisions and controlling itself.

Show me any company that is willing to accept liability for autopilot or equivalent feature set and it will be relevant, but despite several companies releasing this feature set not one of them takes any responsibility for it and all of them state that the driver is still in control. This is driver assistance, not self driving and all the manufactures have been extremely clear on this point.

 

[AmpedRealtor]

Show me any company that is willing to accept liability for autopilot or equivalent feature set and it will be relevant, but despite several companies releasing this feature set not one of them takes any responsibility for it and all of them state that the driver is still in control. This is driver assistance, not self driving and all the manufactures have been extremely clear on this point.

The fact that this needs to be explained is indication enough that we are going to see people taking naps after they engage Autopilot.

 

[green1]

The fact that this needs to be explained is indication enough that we are going to see people taking naps after they engage Autopilot.

you are unfortunately correct. Luckily for tesla, their communications so far have been very clear and unambiguous, so those crashes won't be their problem.
The public will read those stories in the same light as they read the urban legend of the guy in the motorhome setting cruise and making a sandwich

 

[randompersonx]

No! You must continue to pay attention with lane keeping on. It is not autonomous driving. I beg of you to stop proliferating the idea that you can sit on your laptop, read a book, sleep, etc while lane keeping is on. This will cause Tesla to turn on every nag in the book and make it a very poor customer experience for all of us.

My attempt at humor.

That said, stupid people will do what stupid people will do, regardless of my joke or not.

 

[eye.surgeon]

Show me any company that is willing to accept liability for autopilot or equivalent feature set and it will be relevant, but despite several companies releasing this feature set not one of them takes any responsibility for it and all of them state that the driver is still in control. This is driver assistance, not self driving and all the manufactures have been extremely clear on this point.

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/...d-google-accept-liability-for-autonomous-cars
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/v...ject-in-sweden-video-photo-gallery-72343.html

Mercedes and Volvo have both announced they will accept liability for accidents, that's what the references above are about. They have more advanced lane keep assistance right now than Tesla does, although I'm hoping 7.0 will fix that.

 

[Electricfan]

you are unfortunately correct. Luckily for tesla, their communications so far have been very clear and unambiguous, so those crashes won't be their problem.
The public will read those stories in the same light as they read the urban legend of the guy in the motorhome setting cruise and making a sandwich

That was on Paul Harvey! It must be true!

 

[dirkhh]

I still have my alerts setup for when my car is downloading something for more than a few seconds over WiFi. Rest assured I'll be immediately installing.

I will remind my wife not to accept any firmware updates for the foreseeable future.
What a pity given the bugs in 6.2... but that UI? Not in my car.

 

[wk057]

I will remind my wife not to accept any firmware updates for the foreseeable future.
What a pity given the bugs in 6.2... but that UI? Not in my car.

*shrugs*

Seems silly to forego updates just because of the UI. Probably more trouble than it's worth, especially since you'd be rejecting key feature additions and improvements.

I personally would use the car if it had a Tandy 1000 text based interface and CGA graphics, as long as it does what it's supposed to.

 

[Andyw2100]

*shrugs*

Seems silly to forego updates just because of the UI. Probably more trouble than it's worth, especially since you'd be rejecting key feature additions and improvements.

I personally would use the car if it had a Tandy 1000 text based interface and CGA graphics, as long as it does what it's supposed to.

But you're not actually old enough to have used CGA graphics yourself, right?

 

[dirkhh]

*shrugs*

Seems silly to forego updates just because of the UI. Probably more trouble than it's worth, especially since you'd be rejecting key feature additions and improvements.

When I got the car it had two massive TACC malfunctions, one of which would have caused an accident if there had been a car behind me (HARD breaking on completely open road).
So I'd be interested in the lane hold in about 3-6 months, depending on the experiences others report (at this point I do use TACC and it mostly seems to work).
Of the remaining new features that have been leaked - I think the only one I'd say "dang, too bad I'm not getting this" is the individual pressure readings from my tires. Yeah, that's a bummer. The rest? I'd rather have a reasonable (to me) dashboard.

 

[msnow]

I still have my alerts setup for when my car is downloading something for more than a few seconds over WiFi. Rest assured I'll be immediately installing.

How did you set that up? Is it alerting based on some content monitoring on your router?

 

[wk057]

But you're not actually old enough to have used CGA graphics yourself, right?

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What? How old do you think I am? Of course I've used CGA graphics!

 

[dirkhh]

But you're not actually old enough to have used CGA graphics yourself, right?

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CGA graphics was one of the cool UPGRADES that we waited for. Feels like what many people are doing regarding the v7 firmware, come to think of it. And about as enticing.

 

[mspohr]

But you're not actually old enough to have used CGA graphics yourself, right?

Well, I am old enough to have used CGA graphics and let me tell you that it was a fantastic advance from text mode where we had to make pictures using only keyboard characters.
(Also, I love the new v7 UI!)


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[MileHighMotoring]

I remember CGA, VGA, VGA+, SVGA, EGA, all of it. Back when computers always had something genuinely better around the corner. I also had 300 baud modems, then 1200, 2400, 14.4, all of that.