yobigd20
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It's a torque sensor. You can steer with your knees (not suggested) and the car will assume your hands are on the wheel.
Or hang or clip a weight on the bottom of the wheel lol
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It's a torque sensor. You can steer with your knees (not suggested) and the car will assume your hands are on the wheel.
Cross posting-
There is an analog speedometer! (sort of)
The TACC indicator, when not engaged (gray) acts as an analog speedomoter. As you speed up and slow down the little line moves up and down. When you engage TACC, the little line turns blue (as well as the whole indicator) and gets set to the triangular mark above it showing your engaged TACC speed.
It's kind of cool. Not functional (since it's so small), but a nice touch. Good job Tesla.
The funny part is that it's skewmorphic to a speedometer that's no longer on the car. Nice touch Tesla!
Let the road trips begin!
I've already seen whiners on here about how it can be further improved and how it's trying to leave the freeway in the right-hand lane all the time. But it's BETA. So I'm cool with all that.
I'm looking forward to many road trips even in my classic car. Hopefully as people take these, AP phones home and make it even better. If anyone ends up around the Charlotte area, hit me up for lunch sometime.
Posters who are trying to help Tesla improve the software are "whiners?"
You may be "cool" with the software trying to leave the freeway from the right-hand lane because it's a beta, but I don't think that justifies referring to others who are trying to help improve the software as "whiners."
That's not cool.
Plus keeping people aware of potential problem areas is very important at this stage. I want as much information as possible, especially about corner cases that might be weird or unusual.
There's a difference between pointing out limitations of the software / UI / etc. and what some people do which is to extend this to whinging about how Tesla is doomed to failure because of some flaw or Tesla is evil because it misrepresented capabilities.Exactly!
Yesterday I drove about 120 miles with the new software. First leg was on a very steep, winding two lane road that goes over a 9000 ft. pass and the speed limit is 50 mph for most of the route. The autopilot did very well for the most part but I found that on some of the hairpin turns it slowed the car too much (down to 35 when 45 would have been fine) and on others it didn't slow the car enough (at least I was uncomfortable with the speed).
The second leg was on I80 and the autopilot performed very well, …
Tesla folks, if you are reading, would you please provide analog speed? Analog speed indication is useful to see and control how fast one is decelerating to meet a lower "speed limit ahead" as well as acceleration rate as speed limits increase on the way out of a town.
It looks like it would be easy to simply enclose the digital speed indicator within a 270º arc with speed marks and a cursor without taking up much more room.
So auto Pilot sees a hairpin turn and slows itself to a safe speed? Wow!
9,000 ft and then onto I80; Mt. Rose Highway?
It needs to be better calibrated and I assume that this will come from the database of people driving it. It will be interesting to see if it gets better over time.
Lateral g-force would be a good indicator. If it reports that parameter, it would be very useful.I wonder if it can read lateral G-force and use that to calibrate?
There's a difference between pointing out limitations of the software / UI / etc. and what some people do which is to extend this to whinging about how Tesla is doomed to failure because of some flaw or Tesla is evil because it misrepresented capabilities.
I've already seen whiners on here about how it can be further improved and how it's trying to leave the freeway in the right-hand lane all the time.
I was amazed when the Autopilot slowed the car going into the curves... very neat. I had the cruise set at 60 mph and it slowed for the curves. It needs to be better calibrated and I assume that this will come from the database of people driving it. It will be interesting to see if it gets better over time.
I had it abort today in a curve, with the red alert demanding I take immediate control, but I wasn't surprised by that. I was ready for it, and was actually wondering what it was going to do.
The curve is a 45 MPG recommended speed curve from one 65 MPH highway to another. I've worked up to learning that it's really no problem at all for the P85D to take this curve with the cruise set to 70 without slowing down. I get annoyed when there's anyone in front of me and I don't get to take this curve at 70, as it's become fun, and the highlight of my boring highway drive. I wanted to see what would happen with autosteer set. I'm not sure if it tried to slow down at all, realized it wasn't slowing enough, and demanded attention, or if something else happened, but I wasn't very far into the curve at all before I had to take over.
This is one of the many examples of what I am worried about.Funny coincidence: there is a very similar curve on my commute to one of my offices in the east bay. I've always taken it at 70 mph even though most people slow to 50 or less, and it causes a nice 1/2G or something to that effect - no tire squeal but enough lateral acceleration that my body is pressed hard against the side bolster.
Anyway, in my case the car didn't slow down at all while approaching this curve, and autosteer didn't disengage - however the car didn't start turning at all so I had to take over.