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I'm in the same boat. Tired of spotty service and Summon that almost never works. It worked perfectly on my 15 S 85. It should be even better on an '18 M 3. So I sold it to a dealership last week and picked up my dream car - an Aston Martin DB9 Volante. Totally different car. But we also sold...

I have to say, my 3 was ~ 60k all said and done and I just sold it last week. It barely booked out at 45k. I have to disagree with this study. It's great to see insurance stepping up and paying higher than replacement cost! Seems like totaled 3s are doing much better than 3s for sale. I'm still...

I'm in the same group. I have had gripes about the inconsistency of Summon ever since I had my Model 3. The 2015 Model S I had was GREAT with AP and Summon. It's so sad that we are still not on par with some of the features the early computer had. We have a 911 for fun and the 3 now, but after...

UPDATE: So I just got the update to 2020.12.5 and I can confirm it's no longer doing it. I've turned the feature on again and it drives that section just fine like it used to. On a positive note, the car can now visualize traffic cones and move around them! Those of us that are in the UK...

Oh really? I’m currently on 8.1. I’ll have to check again after the next update. Thanks for the info!

Just adding my 2 cents. I've started getting this on one small stretch of road - at the exact same place every time - next to my house. I recorded video of it to show I'm not departing the lane. This is definitely a bug with the Emergency Lane Departure Avoidance that was introduced in a recent...

Soooo YOU drove your car into a garage and want Tesla to be responsible for overriding your input into the garage. This seems like something that would be disliked by the entire public. For a car to decide when and where your pedal application is valid enough for it to allow? That's very big...

Hi I wanted to add my two cents. I’ve had this problem EVERY time I had my wheels repaired at a shop in Mesa. I think it’s because they use the pneumatic sockets to tighten down the rim. The back end feels squirrelly and unsafe! They didn’t seem to notice but I went home, jacked up the car...

I park in the same arrangement. But the cord is long enough to lay on the ground under the car. This seems like a lot of work to solve a problem that doesn’t exist. There’s more than enough cable to reach the port. I’m so confused at this post.

I’ve had the driver door handle replaced, charge door replaced, various trim replaced. Rear carpet insert for trunk replaced. All done within days. It definitely hurts hearing your experience. I’ve always been given a model S loaner and they usually came and got the car and dropped it back off...

I’ve never seen MPG displayed on my S. That’s interesting. How and where do you see it? I just get kWh readings.

That just doesn’t make sense for me. I’ve had perfect turnaround. Usually same day fixes in Phoenix.

I love seeing all the multi-coat white cars being produced. Hopefully I'm in this batch! Configured 2/27.

Good to see you got your VIN! I hope they're running a batch of this color now. (If that's how this works). I should be coming up hopefully next week then!

I wonder if it's a pearl white thing? I've seen a few blue ones get VINs, but my pearl white designed on 2/27 is also waiting. Hopefully they retool the paint shop and push a couple hundred pearl white ones through! The EAP and FSD doesn't really matter since all cars have the same AP hardware...

If the USB plug is only 1A each anyway, we wouldn't have a fast charging option like someone mentioned further up the thread. We would get max 1A per device. This would divide that into .5A. It would be helpful to confirm. Honestly, it's less of a concern for me. This isn't intended to be the...

We'll have 2 phones in that area so I'm not really concerned about sliding. Plus that area seems just a little larger than 2 phones. I don't think it can slide out of that area.

Sorry - not sure how to edit that post. I meant to say "Tech CU" instead of "ate here CU" - damn autocorrect

Hard to say. I applied to ate here CU this morning for their specialized Tesla financing. I’ll post what I find.

You can apply without being a member, but the requirement that I was able to use (llving in AZ) was to be a member of any other credit union.

I just got approved for 1.99% (60 mos) and 2.24% (72 mos) at Financial Partners CU. Really nice people to work with. They require 10% down though. I'd like to just have the 6% down that includes the deposit and $2500 down to begin the build, but not bad! That gets my payment around $774.

Ah I’ve never been in one without AP. Thanks for letting me know.

Yeah I don’t think it’s a problem if they’ve used them in all the miles and all customer cars and we’re bit hearing about any problems.

Oh geez. Sorry! I'm multitasking at work and didn't get your intent. :D

Unnecessary with rear looking cameras. The new AP relies on cams first, then radar if I recall correctly. They switched to that after the MobileEye split.

In my 2015 S85 you can see the sonar waves around your car on the driver display. They change from grey to yellow/orange/red. Does the vehicle display on the 3's center console not do that? If you've driven the S for 5 years I would think you'd be used to seeing that. Maybe it's just a learning...

Personally this seems like a non-issue. The upper control arm doesn't take ANY weight of the vehicle. That's the least-stressed part of the suspension. It only needs to guide the alignment as the strut travels. Nice job, Tesla, for reducing weight where needed!

Personally I don't think the turbines look right on that car. It might be the color of the car body. It definitely sounds like a hardline sales pitch. I don't like someone telling me that I HAVE to get anything.

I don't think any other carmaker has the R&D invested in a self-driving or driver-assist like Tesla has. I'm not buying the 3 just for the BEV aspect. I use the AP almost every time I drive it. And THAT is why the 3 makes the most sense. I can spend 2/3 of what my S cost and have more power and...

He put a deposit on the X in 2014, or even 2013 (I can't remember when he put that $ down) but got his SUV months after I had my S. But it had the shimmy issue and he was left with loaners for most of the last couple years. He has only had his actual newly built X for about 6 months now.

Maybe you shouldn't buy this car. I have friends who put down $5000 on the X over 2 years prior to ever seeing one in person. I can't believe this is even a question you'd be asking. He's a freaking billionaire for pete's sake. It might be a better idea for you to wait and buy a lease return...

Wow! I was skeptical of the paint problem you were describing, but that IS scary. I'm saddened that your experience with the SC has worsened since your Roadster ownership. My fear is that it's only going to get worse as people who have NO prior history with Tesla begin buying the 3 and service...

Excellent point! Moving on! hahaha

Gotcha. Yeah I just tested it again today and the tears present just like the fronts. I have to say it's a bummer that the SC don't have all the information we're able to gather at their fingertips. It's become even more obvious around the 3 release.

You actually won't see them at all. Why? Because you're on the inside of the car. Why do you care about the size of the lights? I don't believe that it's a safety thing. The government requires minimum sizes and brightness so that concern is moot.

Just telling you Tesla's official response to me on that. But I agree with you - they do appear to be touch sensitive too, right? Perhaps this person wasn't aware, but he sounded extremely confident when I asked him about it.

Sorry for the confusion. They definitely auto-present, but they aren't 'touch sensitive' like the front handles. At least that's what I was told by the Tesla Service Center in Scottsdale, AZ where I have my S serviced. I noticed when the front right handle needed replacing due to not presenting...

The official Tesla statement on the rear door handles is that they do not auto-present. They're not programmed to do so - just the fronts. But I swear like you guys that I can walk up from the grocery store, tap the rear handle and only THEN will it present (meaning that they didn't do it just...

Girl, bye. You think we're going to try to talk you back into it? That's the most stupid reason to cancel an order. Wow. Sounds like you're just an ICE type of person.

That's a tough one. It sounds like Elon's tweets are saying that even the dual motor will be available by EOY 2017, so I imagine quite a few other options will too. We won't know that for a couple weeks though when someone leaks the configurator page. My S lease is up in May of 2018 and should...

I have an S85 with pano roof and black interior. There wasn't any issue until yesterday when we hit 120 degrees. Seriously, the roof rarely EVER shows any heat penetration. The AC is more than capable of handling the temps. It's funny how much people think black interiors are going to kill the...

No Tesla except the Roadster has an easily replaceable stereo, but why not just go for the upgraded system? The S's is really good. It's not perfect as has been discussed in other forums, but I think it's great.

Seems like we're worrying about nothing here. Like people said, what appears white may be yellow when needed to flash or light up. Also, if you haven't seen the blinkers or fog lights working on a release candidate you may be again - worrying about a non-issue.

There are superchargers in Phoenix and Casa Grande, but it is surprising there aren't any (yet) in Tucson. Although I would hardly call Tucson a cosmopolitan city.

I agree! We have a master bathroom shower that can use when the rainhead is opened up about 13GPM. Not that we use that day-to-day, but it's nice when you want it. Our regular water heater would have been empty in about 3 minutes. The tankless (Rinnai) has been a lifesaver for us. Having normal...

Lol. Depending on what you're looking for, definitely. The next gen seats would be about as far back as I'd go in the facelift cycle. Those are amazing. I don't care much for the older loaner car seats. Total personal preference though.

I agree with you, Chopr147. If I upgrade my cell phone almost every year, why wouldn't I want to upgrade all the tech in my car? When I worked for Toshiba's laptop mfg plant in CA, the lifecycle was 12 months meaning the top of the line laptop in January was the worst model in December. I see no...

I'm sure a retrofit will be possible. Whether it will be financially reasonable is another story. I still get so surprised by people that feel the vehicle they paid for will no longer satisfy their needs after a new version comes out. It's still a terrific car that manages 60-80% of my driving...

Yeah that point cracked me up too. When you hate the incentive, but take the incentive. And you push for public transport but will only take it if it picks you up at your door. Your entire argument falls apart. Are you just complaining to complain? Because you're definitely not doing anything to...

I also decided against getting one. In all honesty, I charge maybe every 2-3 days to top it off. And at 28mi/hr with the single charger it's more than enough time to top off from near empty overnight. If I needed a fast charge-up I would most likely be ready to go on a trip and would utilize the...