TSLA Investor Discussions

[onlinespending]

I trade after hours all the time. Pretty much just a lot lower volume. There's not much to it.

 

[BYT_P1837]

Here is the SEC's information on it... for those who are interested in it. You should be a seasoned investor who knows their stuff before you get into after-hours trading.

http://www.sec.gov/investor/pubs/afterhours.htm

 

[zack]

I thought that the range of the RAV4 was only 100 miles? The shareholder letter says: "With the largest battery pack of any non-premium EV, it is expected to have a city range of almost 170 miles, more than 60% above the Nissan Leaf. The electric RAV4 is a high performance version of the RAV4 with outstanding acceleration and excellent handling due to the low center of gravity afforded by the floor mounted battery pack." That's a lot bigger range than 100 miles!

 

[Robert.Boston]

Notice they say city range. City range in an EV is much better than highway range. Also, we'd need to know what other assumptions are included (exterior temp, need for A/C or heat, etc.)

 

[zack]

Hey Elon! I would LOVE a 500 mile battery pack option!

If it's technologically possible right now, why not offer the option? If it's just a matter of squeezing in more batteries into the floor... squeeze on!

 

[ckessel]

If it's technologically possible right now, why not offer the option? If it's just a matter of squeezing in more batteries into the floor... squeeze on!

Presumably it's all about cost. I doubt they'd have the demand at the price required.

 

[onlinespending]

Presumably it's all about cost. I doubt they'd have the demand at the price required.

exactly.

 

[smorgasbord]

Presumably it's all about cost. I doubt they'd have the demand at the price required.

You'd be looking at $63,750 just for the battery alone - assuming a linear scale-up from the 300 mile battery.

 

[dsm363]

Some people would find it useful. I could see an 'elite' or special version of the Model S down the road. Kind of like AMG with Mercedes. Could have a $110,000 500 mile performance Model S if that was technologically possible. More of a halo Model S than anything that would sell in significant volumes.

 

[FalconNinetyD]

Outsider, you better correct the calendar in your signature!

Are you happy-dancing or shall I?

Found this interesting:



My takeaway:

• Tesla is SERIOUS about power train development and isn't just giving lip services to being more than a direct manufacturer.
• Tesla will likely see significant revenue from Power train development (this deal alone)
• Tesla isn't afraid to "help the competition" and is sticking by the whole "we want to make all cars EVs" (The Mercedes being a great EV and priced alongside its gas counterpart would be huge for MB)

 

[AnOutsider]

Some people would find it useful. I could see an 'elite' or special version of the Model S down the road. Kind of like AMG with Mercedes. Could have a $110,000 500 mile performance Model S if that was technologically possible. More of a halo Model S than anything that would sell in significant volumes.

Maybe it would be good enough to actually return to using the "sport" moniker.

As for the sigs, I'll update them when we actually get some firm dates

 

[onlinespending]

hmm...gonna announce something exciting around July about "long distance travel" in the Model S. Presumably an announcement on the Quick Charge infrastructure.

 

[zack]

Wow, it sounds like they're going to announce a really long-range pack option in July.

 

[ckessel]

Wow, it sounds like they're going to announce a really long-range pack option in July.

I figured he was teasing the super-charger.

 

[dadaleus]

I figured he was teasing the super-charger.

I'm >90% sure that's what he's talking about. A salesrep suggested the same thing to me.

 

[zack]

We hear what we want to (and expect to) hear. I shouldn't be so excited about the long-range battery pack. I know he announced early in the conference call that very few people would be interested in a longer-range pack.

 

[dsm363]

I agree. Announcing a longer range pack right as Signature customers are getting their cars might upset some people.

 

[zack]

I agree, but how are they not going to be upset when (if) it's announced later? 8^P

What if it could be offered as an upgrade, aftermarket?

 

[ckessel]

I agree, but how are they not going to be upset when (if) it's announced later? 8^P

What if it could be offered as an upgrade, aftermarket?

I think it was in a previous call, Tesla said it'd be every few years that there'd be any battery pack changes. Various reasons, the R&D, the testing (crash testing presumably would be required), production line concerns, etc.

 

[brianman]

gonna announce something exciting around July about "long distance travel" in the Model S.

Hovercraft using SpaceX technology to travel across the ocean.