WilliamZ
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Ok, not so sure on the S issue.
So, poor built issues of X was made up?
So, double vison issue of X was made up?
What position should I have?
Isn't Tesla suppose to grow up?
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So, poor built issues of X was made up?
So, double vison issue of X was made up?
What position should I have?
Isn't Tesla suppose to grow up?
That's one way to look at it. Could turn out that it's a problem that needs to be addressed. Maybe Tesla does a voluntary recall or warrants the suspension for 100K. Could be a win, I'm sure we'll learn more.
Front toe and castor require access from underneath the car. Rear toe requires removing the bottom cover. Don't see how you would do this without a lift.
That's a problem. Whenever you get the facts wrong or exaggerate, you loose credibility. Tesla critics included.
MassModel3
Member
The fact is that most "goodwill" repairs are at the sole discretion of the manager of the particular service center. Sometimes repairs need to be considered goodwill in the interest of good customer service (they put a *TINY* nic in my steering wheel when changing my defrost vents and replaced the whole steering wheel as goodwill), but there's no way they can put forth a policy of what, exactly, that means. It's going to vary by situation.
And when the vehicle is out of warranty by time or mileage, then is used in a way that would otherwise have voided the warranty anyway, managerial discretion is the only way this would fall under goodwill. Tesla can't be expected to put forth a policy saying that misuse out of warranty is covered. If they do that, what, exactly, is the purpose of the warranty in the first place?
I thought so too but it was pointed out to me numerous times earlier in this thread that is not true.
What exactly are you going to recall?
We have one documented case of this failure mode which seems to be at least partially rooted on the owner's actions. We have seen with both the seatbelt campaign and the Model X 3rd row seat campaign, Tesla is more than happy to kick off a campaign based on a single data point and not wait for the actuaries to develop a trend curve and do a cost-benefit analysis, but you still need something actionable at the end of the day.
JohnSnowNW
Active Member
But he was still on a road. Maybe it wasn't paved, but a road nonetheless.
The vehicle goes on an alignment rack, which does lift the car and the mechanic has access from underneath. But the wheels are not dangling free.
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It's disgusting, what became of this story. The worst, yet, IMO. Because after all it was a simple, severely neglected, ball-joint.
jelloslug
Active Member
Exactly, years ago my sister had a brand new Grand Prix that the ball joint just broke off after two weeks. She ended up loosing control and rolling the car. GM had the audacity to offer to just fix the car and call it good....
JohnSnowNW
Active Member
You can "off-road" on a physical road. If the "road" wasn't maintained by a municipality, for instance.
off-road
(ôf′rōd′, ŏf′-)
adj.
Existing, taking place, or designed for use off paved or public roads or in rugged terrain
You are going to end up in a tautological discussion of "road" but having to put the suspension on high and creep along at 2-5 mph means is wasn't much of a road.
Ball joint failure or suspension fracturing should not be happening, even on a bumpy road.
Let the NTSHA finish their investigation. Since Tesla has been trying to suppress information on this, we don't know how many cars are affected. This would be a very expensive recall at a critical time for them.
JohnSnowNW
Active Member
TaoJones
Beyond Driven
Not for nothing, but the toll road to Ensenada is in better shape than the 405 from Los Angeles south.
I grew up on dirt roads and, while even the best dirt road can be quickly worn to washboard status (especially with reduced state and county maintenance budgets, or at any time during mud season), the net effect is greater wear upon the suspension in general - not rust. No idea about the OP's environs, but my state had annual inspections that are intended to catch this sort of thing. Between state-mandated annual inspections and, presumably, Tesla annual service(s), it's hard to believe that that kind of rust happened in a single year, and that it wasn't making some kind of abnormal noise.
If you decouple the cause and the (lack of subsequent detection), and even if you don't, this looks more and more like a one-off - despite the best efforts of the banned crackpot and Neidershorter - the latter of whom clearly needs a better axe.
The fact that Neidershorter's FUD has been the catalyst for -$1B+ in market cap would, in a perfect world, be actionable. Instead, he will probably continue to write his FUD, and we will continue to have occasional opportunities to buy more TSLA stock when it goes on sale as it has the last couple of days.
The vehicle doesn't go on an alignment rack. The alignment rack is attached to the wheels. The car is driven onto a service lift.
Yes, when it comes to talking about whether the warranty is void.
Driving on an unpaved dirt road will not AUTOMATICALLY void your warranty.
Pray tell, what information have they suppressed? Seems the owner has said quite a lot without repurcussions.
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