Superchargers in Australia

[Sluggabed]

And generally hated by the environmentalists as it's often destroying what's often native land supporting wildlife.

Yep, those dam (pardon the pun) lakes are just the worse for wildlife, forlna and fauna...... i constantly see The Greens constantly protesting lakes and demanding they be drained immediately. Genius stuff.
Is there an ounce of critical thinking at any point in your rational or was this completely spoon feed to you. Keep making the internet great.

Australia is the driest continent outside of Antarctica and we need every drop of water we can retain.

As for crappy infrastructure build within Australia is a different story/discussion. Could use the same argument for any road/rail being built and missing budget) competition date anywhere in the country.

 

[Vostok]

Yep, those dam (pardon the pun) lakes are just the worse for wildlife, forlna and fauna...... i constantly see The Greens constantly protesting lakes and demanding they be drained immediately. Genius stuff.

Leaving natural lakes in place is preserving the natural environment, both below and above the surface of the water. Building a dam is destructive as @moa999 rightly pointed out.

As for crappy infrastructure build within Australia is a different story/discussion. Could use the same argument for any road/rail being built and missing budget) competition date anywhere in the country.

Name one road or rail project in this country that ended up costing six times the forecast budget and took three times longer to build? Snowy 2.0 is in a league of its own on that score.

 

[Quickst]

Even with the most generous Wh/km this now more expensive than fuel

No
My rule of thumb is 1kW supercharger = 0.5L petrol on the highway

still cheaper

it's now $13bn and growing.

With TBM Florence still out of action due to geotechnically unstable ground.

 

[Quickst]

I'm now getting 167kW/100km.

I think you need a decimal point between the 6 and 7

 

[moa999]

think you need a decimal point between the 6 and 7

And a unit change.
16.7kWh/100km.

Or as reported in the Tesla.
167Wh/km

 

[moa999]

A suggestion on FB ToA that the Bundaberg site might be at the under construction Kepnock Town Centre (centre and supermarket open within a fortnight).
Site is just off the Bundaberg Ring Road to the East of the town.

Can't find anything on plans that I found online.

Not enough to create a dedicated thread yet.

 

[Quickst]

167Wh/km

I prefer the /100km as this is easier to have discussions with people regarding the relative running costs of EV.

Easier to say 16kWh/100km compared with 8L/100km when there is a common denominator and a neat 2:1 numerator

 

[technerdx6000]

A suggestion on FB ToA that the Bundaberg site might be at the under construction Kepnock Town Centre (centre and supermarket open within a fortnight).

Such a ridiculous location decision. Superchargers are especially required on the highway, not at destinations.

 

[moa999]

Agree. Most other cars seem to report in kWh/100km too.

And it makes sense given electricity (both at home and in most EV chargers) is sold by the kWh so people have a better understanding of the unit and it's cost.

 

[Vostok]

Easier to say 16kWh/100km compared with 8L/100km when there is a common denominator and a neat 2:1 numerator

And easier again to say 160Wh/km. Two fewer syllables to say and 4 fewer characters to write.

 

[Quickst]

And easier again to say 160Wh/km

But not in the context I was talking about

 

[technerdx6000]

I think either or is better than km/kWh which some cars use. Its a pretty straightforward conversion. All multiples of 10.

 

[[Zombie]]

I think either or is better than km/kWh which some cars use

km/kWh or km per litre / miles per gallon always made more sense to me than the xxx per 100 km.

How far can I go with a given quantity of fuel, not how much fuel do I need to go an arbitrary distance.

And higher numbers = better efficiency, more bang for my buck.

 

[RichardV]

A suggestion on FB ToA that the Bundaberg site might be at the under construction Kepnock Town Centre (centre and supermarket open within a fortnight).
Site is just off the Bundaberg Ring Road to the East of the town.

Can't find anything on plans that I found online.

Not enough to create a dedicated thread yet.
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Not convinced from the photos there is any evidence of supercharger construction.

Would still also be looking at 'Bundaberg - Hinkler Central' as leaked last year and where the pin is currently.

Wiki - Supercharger - Australian Index

I've noticed the list of Superchargers on the Tesla website is missing 8 Superchargers. There's seemingly no pattern to the ones that are missing. For example, it has Campbelltown, the most recently opened Supercharger, but it doesn't list Hollydene (Jerrys Plains) which has been open for years...

teslamotorsclub.com

 

[Midnight Man]

Not trying to cast doubt on your call, but looking at the photo above, I wonder what this is?

For sure there's not enough of them (yet), but the layout here seems different than all the other rows...

 

[Sluggabed]

Leaving natural lakes in place is preserving the natural environment, both below and above the surface of the water. Building a dam is destructive as @moa999 rightly pointed out.

Name one road or rail project in this country that ended up costing six times the forecast budget and took three times longer to build? Snowy 2.0 is in a league of its own on that score.

Right but your happy with roads, freeways bridges to be built, interfering with nature, so you can drive around freely but not the means of energy production to help you get around me efficiently. Sounds like solid position bro.

And as for infrastructure builds, again only when it's something you approve of yet water resources are the only one that get wrong. Once again your bias and

 

[Sluggabed]

/Rant got cut off

Once again your bias overwrites any basis of genuine argument.
Furthermore the lack of knowledge and history of any past infrastructure builds is comical. Just lookup the fiasco of the Sydney Opera House, they chased the architect out of the country, never to return

 

[meloccom]

/Rant got cut off

Once again your bias overwrites any basis of genuine argument.
Furthermore the lack of knowledge and history of any past infrastructure builds is comical. Just lookup the fiasco of the Sydney Opera House, they chased the architect out of the country, never to return

If memory serves me correctly, Sydney Opera House originally estimated to cost $8 million and eventually cost $100 million.
But now seems like a bargain.

 

[PC__LoadLetter]

Such a ridiculous location decision. Superchargers are especially required on the highway, not at destinations.

Shopping centres are good, provided you have 24 hour car park access, and ideally convenient food and toilets until well into the night.

But why Bundaberg? It's nowhere near the Bruce Highway. Hopefully it won't preclude investment in somewhere like Childers or Gin Gin, sometime soon.

 

[moa999]

But why Bundaberg?

Probably population.
Bundaberg just above 100k.
GinGin and Childers well under 10k.

Interestingly the main substation in the area is closest to GIn Gin (about 10km north) right on the Bruce Hwy and has recently had a major update. Fifty-year makeover starts for Gin Gin substation | Powerlink