Supercharger - Newark, DE

[Max*]

When there were power problems at Harris Ranch (a crucial N-S stop on I-5) a year or so ago I remember reading Tesla brought in a portable generator. I guess if it's the main east coast highway Tesla doesn't think it's as important as if it's the main west coast highway?

We don't know that. We have a lot of people posting from 100 miles away.

And the only person who was there, did so on a weekday.

For all we know, Tesla is there on the weekend with generators.

 

[3PHASE]

PlugShare has been updated, although I would suspect there could be a fair # of owners who do not look at it.

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[Lanny]

Generators were brought in when Harris Ranch went down for a few days in November, 2014.

(photo by wraithnot)

 

[CHRGIT]

In OC, Md, Newark is off my in car Nav screen.

 

[kort677]

When there were power problems at Harris Ranch (a crucial N-S stop on I-5) a year or so ago I remember reading Tesla brought in a portable generator. I guess if it's the main east coast highway Tesla doesn't think it's as important as if it's the main west coast highway?

one difference is that the Newark SpC is in a toll road rest area, I'd bet that the powers that be aren't too friendly to a temporary generator in their rest area.

 

[Chuq]

Makes you wonder if Tesla have a shipping container sized Powerpack that can be brought in as a temporary measure ... I haven't done the maths on how many kWh you can fit in a shipping container full of batteries...

One of Tesla Energy's competitors in Australia: Redflow LSB - Redflow

 

[ggnykk]

I bet someone sending a message to Elon through Twitter will get this resolved in a day? He will call the utility CEO directly ;-)

 

[jdo]

Plugshare is reporting that Newark is back up as of 00:53 today.

 

[HankLloydRight]

one difference is that the Newark SpC is in a toll road rest area, I'd bet that the powers that be aren't too friendly to a temporary generator in their rest area.

It's definitely not a toll road.

 

[CHRGIT]

In OC, Md, Newark is off my in car Nav screen.

It's back on the Nav screen as of this morning.

 

[Lanny]

Tesla Roadside Assistance confirms that Newark is back in service.

 

[Drucifer]

I'll stop you here. You're approximation assumes all cars will charge and drive at the same time. All of the superchargers I visit aren't utilized to 100% capacity.

Queuing theory is also not linear, so a doubling of supercharger can handle a lot more than double the load.

Some superchargers are added for increased load in an area (Tejon Ranch CA prompted Buttonwillow CA for example), but most are just finishing routes and increasing the geographical foot print of the chargers.

Here in the southeast, I am alone at superchargers about half the time, and maybe with 1 other car about a quarter of the time. and with 2 other cars about 15% of the time. It has happened only a few times that there are 3 or more cars and I have to get serious about looking a the A/B pairing. There is substantial overbuild in most locations that could easily handle 5x vehicles.

 

[Drucifer]

This is true. Speculation is that CHAdeMO is an acronym in French for "Doesn't Work Well"

I thought CHAdeMO was Greek for "8 Track"

 

[kort677]

It's definitely not a toll road.

sorry to argue but you are very, very wrong.
Interstate 95 in Delaware - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[GlmnAlyAirCar]

sorry to argue but you are very, very wrong.
Interstate 95 in Delaware - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You could trust Wikipedia, or you could use fist hand knowledge. I will use my first hand knowledge. Yes, there are portions that are toll, but not around Newark.

 

[HankLloydRight]

sorry to argue but you are very, very wrong.
Interstate 95 in Delaware - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That part of 95 where the SC is is not a toll road. It's toll-free to get there from either direction without paying any toll. There is a single toll booth further south on 95 heading into MD. It's not a toll road like the NJTP or PATP where you have to pay a toll to gain access to the highway.

eta: In fact it's also trivially easy to bypass the single DE toll booth to avoid that toll. Most locals do it.

 

[HankLloydRight]

Compare the Newark SC with the Turkey Lake SC on the FLTP, where you have to pay 75cents to enter the roadway at the exit before the SC station.. and I think another 75cents to exit. Access to the Newark SC and rest stop is entirely free all the time.

 

[AlMc]

That part of 95 where the SC is is not a toll road. It's toll-free to get there from either direction without paying any toll. There is a single toll booth further south on 95 heading into MD. It's not a toll road like the NJTP or PATP where you have to pay a toll to gain access to the highway.

eta: In fact it's also trivially easy to bypass the single DE toll booth to avoid that toll. Most locals do it.

I live 10 minutes from the Newark SC and travel I95 often. As @Hank says it is easy to bypass the toll... I do it ALL the time. Takes about 10 minutes time. You have to trade off a little more time to save the $4 toll.

 

[kort677]

That part of 95 where the SC is is not a toll road. It's toll-free to get there from either direction without paying any toll. There is a single toll booth further south on 95 heading into MD. It's not a toll road like the NJTP or PATP where you have to pay a toll to gain access to the highway.

eta: In fact it's also trivially easy to bypass the single DE toll booth to avoid that toll. Most locals do it.

you guys are fixated on the actual tolling, using the term toll road isnt about paying the toll, it is a road operated by a highway authority which also controls the operation of the rest area where that SpC is located.
almost all of the SpCs are on private property where tesla has more flexibility than the few, mostly in the NE and in FLA, where they are placed in rest areas of toll roads where they are more limited in what can be altered.

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[Thinkje]

@Lanny collecting tolls at the Newark, DE Welcome Center