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If the tax plan eliminates the credit and you get delivery post effective date of the new tax law you might not see the tax credit

You must be doing something wrong, is your foot on the accelerator!?

I am curious about which mod created this thread, obviously whom ever is responsible is making a personal attack on me. We are all equal here but some must be more equal. What's the line on someone revealing their ID?

There are a couple of discussions about this, search is your friend

Therein lies your issues, your insights are limited by your shallowness

1. Snopes is not a reliable source 2. I didn't make any sort of allegations referring to war crimes 3. Your lack of knowledge doesn't mean that there is " no substantive evidence "

If you refuse to do any basic research and choose to remain clueless there really is no point in continuing. You are going to babble the same ill informed nonsense ad nauseam

Right. You could be 1/10 as successful as he is and you'd still be at the bottom of the pack

do you know the real john McCain? do you know that rather than flying and getting captured he should have been dishonorably discharged? google him, maybe some of your views of the so called hero might be altered. your political opinions exhibit a similar shortsightedness as well.

define super wealthy, and just how many or what percentage of the population are these super wealthy?

define incessant, on interstate type roads the nags are few and far between, on two lane road, one lane each direction, the nags can be often but it really isn't to difficult to tap the steering wheel to end the nag.

as noted, your location skewed your perception of things.

the projection is a simple one to make, the '17 tax codes haven't changed much from prior years.

actually that isn't how telsa plays the game, there haven't been many tesla recalls. the tesla scheme is to push the car out the door regardless of any flaws that happened on the line, and let the service centers deal with the aftermath of the poor QC at the factory.

it is a severely flawed concept and it is severely off topic.

there are 8 million stories.....

that's an issue for Canadians and irrelevant to this discussion

I believe that is what is being proposed

oh my, the sky isn't falling?:eek:

OMG that AMT was dreaded! it really clobbered the people making 150K-400k a year hard, you know, the younger workers who are dubbed the wealthy by the leftists.

FSD?

mea culpa

I came across this today, have at it. Analysts: Tesla Needs To Stop Over Promising & Under Delivering

semantics.

I am not going to debate you on this, do what you want to do, I really don't care. all I know is that you cannot create writedowns on income that doesn't exist. in other words creating a business that is always in the red is going to have a tough time substantiating those little perks that...

again, not quite right, if you lease the car, the lessor get the benefit of the credit, flows it through on the basis price lowering the lease cost and that is regardless of the lessee's tax status there is no chance of there ever being a shortage of ignorance when dealing with any large...

not quite right, the credit lowers the income subject to taxes.

that is a debateable point, some people have very expensive play time, and if you can conjure up a way to pay for it with pre-tax money that would work. why do you think politicos go to davos and the like for their "meetings"

you've hit the outer boundaries of what I can offer advice wise, maybe others can offer better insights, however I think I carried part of my credit forward way back. however all I do is sign my return.

it's always wise to publicly post your tax avoidance schemes . I am not going to point out every pitfall that you clearly have fallen into but be assured you've not yourself any favors discussing your situation here.

I'm not going to go down the path of starting a political pissing match. however if you took a few minutes and conduct a minimal amount of research it might highlight to you exactly what segment of taxpayers pay the largest portion of income taxes collected. the fallacy of bailing out the rich...

legal, tax advice found here is worth what you've paid for it. seek out a pro!

Elon might be all for ending all sorts of tax code incentives but he doesn't have much backing, he's playing the game very naively, the interests backing many of the tax code breaks are far better placed and entrenched than Elon is, idealism can only go so far in the swampiness of politics...

ah so true, as is in any society there are the outliers however the stigma attached to being an outlier there can be severe.

if you cannot claim it on this year's tax return you might be able to carry it forwards. consult a pro for the proper advice for your situation

the grey, who interprets the grey and who is bound by the grey is the source of so many issues. eliminating as much grey as possible and things would function so much more efficiently. see tokyo for an example of how a massively overcrowded city functions well because of strict societal norms.

that's all S. Jersey/philadelphia. get north of trenton and nobody would have a clue as to what scrapple is (not they'd want to once they found out)

government at work?

you need to see more of the world:D, in my part of the world SPCs located in desolate locations are not the norm. defuniak springs fla is in a poor location for services, about my worst experience was perry ok. here the issue is that many SpCs are located in places where they become isolated...

usually interactions with the coppers are without incident but in this day and age, giving the cops any reason to interact with you could morph into other issues. when my children were young (cops love to harass teens) I was fastidious in teaching them to never give a cop a reason to stop them...

yes I did, however consider the source.

if you are proactively watching the car while charging blocking the spaces at the lesser used locations isn't all that much of a problem. you'd be accused of causing a riot at some of locations in places like SoCAL that see a huge amount of usage.

how do you come to that conclusion? a large number of people lease their tesla and the $7500 is built into the equation so those people do get the full benefit of that credit. the only ones who forsake the full benefits of the tax credits are the ones who either are not able to meet the reported...

maybe social justice causes drives your investment decisions, I put my money into investments with only one goal in mind which is to generate income and growth,

moves, counter moves. IMHO elon was foolish for the attitude he displayed regarding that ceremonial council, he acted out in the kabuki theater aspect of politics, got a headline or two but didn't think of the long term affects of kicking sand in face of the deal/rule makers.

he who has the gold, makes the rules?

I think that you my be conflating the issues, regardless of the method of generating the power, which was largely unaffected on PR, the issue is delivering that power. experimenting with donated technologies will get some people powered up a lot quicker than rebuilding the grids. as for LNG, it...

there may be a ton of demand, but getting cars out the door is the issue here. even clearing the backlog of orders in the next 12-18 months seems out of the picture.

While I agree that the solar/battery schemes are not ready for prime time using PR as a testing ground may not be a bad thing. as for LNG, forgetting the fact that it is a fossil fuel, and those are all bad:rolleyes:, the transporting that fuel to PR is problematic on many levels.