Supercharger - Charlotte, NC

[Doug H2]

Any idea on the permitting progress for the Supercharger? Anyone been to the site?

 

[Chas F]

Any idea on the permitting progress for the Supercharger? Anyone been to the site?

I think we'll be lucky to have this one operational by Christmas. It's not permitted yet and from the site notes, it seems there has been at least one review postponed/cancelled. Doesn't bode well for a speedy completion. Until there is a permit, there won't be any site activity.
Anyone have good charging suggestions for Charlotte around Thanksgiving?

 

[mikes_fsd]

Looks like there is some progress on the project planning side, no permits have been issues yet: Plan Review StatMap

 

[Setheroth]

Anyone have good charging suggestions for Charlotte around Thanksgiving?

The Whole Foods market in Huntersville is brand new and has charging stations right up front. You can grab a beer and hot food inside. You're also within walking distance to Birkdale Village.

Good news on the permit progress. As soon as it's approved I'll get down there and snap some photos for you guys.

Here's a pic I stole of the charging sites at Whole Foods.

 

[mikes_fsd]

The Whole Foods near South Park Mall in Charlotte, also has these same stations 3 or 4 of them.

 

[pgiralt]

Some updates to the permitting process. Looks like the site plan has been approved by the zoning office. Still waiting on building, electrical, and fire approvals.

LUESA Commercial -- Commercial City Zoning Review Notes:

Cycle 1 Noted on 11/11/2014
See approved plan

LUESA Commercial -- Commercial City Zoning -- Conditional District Requirements

Noted on 11/11/2014
Site Plan Amendment approved

LUESA Commercial -- Commercial City Zoning -- Permitted use

Noted on 11/11/2014
Adding electric charging stations and associated equipment


LUESA Commercial -- Commercial City Zoning -- Zoning/Petition #

Noted on 11/11/2014
B-1CD / 2002-49

 

[Setheroth]

Just noticed an interesting bit in the notes:

"Per 1106 of NCBC, 1 space shall be accessible parking; Provide accessible parking signage."

Is there really going to be a handicapped charging stall?? I'm laughing a little on the inside right now

 

[mikes_fsd]

LOL on the accessible parking...
But on a more serious note: looks like there are some problems with the Electrical Review:

West, John C. Commercial Electrical 1 Re-review Pending Pending Resubmittal 11/14/201

LUESA Commercial -- Commercial Electrical Review Notes:

Cycle 1 Noted on 11/14/2014
Project #349165 Job-Tesla Motors Supercharging Station Date-11/14/14 Electrical Examiner; John West 704-432-4647 Electrical Engineer; Sheet Comment All Elec. 1) Show manufacture specifications on light pole and fixture. 2) Show Temperature terminations per NEC 110.14C(1). 3) Show service and feeder load calculations per NEC 220. 4) Need manufacture specifications and installation instructions on super charging stations and charging pedestals. 5) Need manufacture specifications and listing on communication cable. 6) Show the available fault current from the utility co. 7) Show a note for NC approved third party listing and label on all materials and equipment. 8) Show AIC rating for the super charger. 9) The Equipment ground in the super charger feeder must be increased per NEC 250.122(B). 10) Remove the grounded conductor from the feeder to the 7.5 transformer from its source, and install a grounded conductor from the transformer secondary to the panel. The #6 from the switchgear needs to be installed per NEC 250.32(2)(A) not 250.30. Show sec. feeder size and prim. feeder size to and from transformer. Redraw transformer diagram for clarity.

 

[Cottonwood]

Looks like someone decided to get a little obsessive about the plans, and prove they were needed in the department... Very similar plans have already passed review in over 125 locations nation-wide, and over 250 locations world-wide.

 

[mikes_fsd]

Very similar plans have already passed review in over 125 locations nation-wide

That was my first thought as well! Plus there are 4 Superchargers in NC already, he is referencing NC laws, wonder how the other 4 got approved!?

 

[Chas F]

None of that matters as I'm sure you guys know. The inspector on site is God and his word is law.

 

[Setheroth]

Plus there are 4 Superchargers in NC already, he is referencing NC laws, wonder how the other 4 got approved!?

This would give the GC some good leverage against the obsessive inspector if needed. Let's hope this site doesn't turn into a sagamore MD! That site was held up for a couple months by an unreasonable inspector.

 

[Chipper]

This would give the GC some good leverage against the obsessive inspector if needed. Let's hope this site doesn't turn into a sagamore MD! That site was held up for a couple months by an unreasonable inspector.

And Sagamore has absolutely NOTHING on Greenville, SC. It has been months and as far as anyone can tell it is still hung!

 

[Cottonwood]

And Sagamore has absolutely NOTHING on Greenville, SC. It has been months and as far as anyone can tell it is still hung!

To be fair, Sagamore was held up by local inspection issues (code interpretation and electrician credentials), whereas Greenville, SC has been a NIMBY issue with the neighbor.

Let's home Greenville, AL goes faster, also on I-85!!!

 

[jfe_md]

Would love to see Commerce up and running soon. When Tesla wants a SC opened quickly, they can do it. Decatur GA showroom to have two or three stalls open very soon and no mention of it on the Supercharger map just a month ago

 

[Chipper]

Would love to see Commerce up and running soon. When Tesla wants a SC opened quickly, they can do it. Decatur GA showroom to have two or three stalls open very soon and no mention of it on the Supercharger map just a month ago

It is a little easier if you are constructing it on property you already own.

 

[wycolo]

Cheyenne SpC was built on top of a mall irrigation (drain?) system. Yes, directly above it. Some of you may have seen the digging project directly under the stockade to replace a busted section of irrigation piping this past summer. Reminded me of the type of multi-level workings going on under the streets of Manhattan (NYC) on a daily basis. The job got done just fine but could easily have presented a problem if at the same time Tesla had issues with its equipment. But you can be sure somebody took a hit from this one (inspector's worst nightmare). :redface:
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[Setheroth]

Went by on the way home tonight just to see if any equipment had shown up yet. It hadn't.

 

[mikes_fsd]

Went by on the way home tonight just to see if any equipment had shown up yet. It hadn't.

The plan review isn't even complete, let alone the permitting. You won't see anything probably until mid-December if that.

 

[Setheroth]

The plan review isn't even complete, let alone the permitting. You won't see anything probably until mid-December if that.

I know, but my spidey-senses were tingling.