Launch is Imminent

[MountainRatMat]

How many annual deliveries would you consider a success for the CT since that avoids trying to define what "dominating" means?
For me success would be over 350k trucks annually starting in 2025.

Elon has already said they plan on making 250k/year. In my opinion consistent demand for a few years, say through 2026, at 250k/year is success. Anything above that is gravy.

 

[MountainRatMat]

look at Model S and Model X sales... the market for $70-$80k+ EV's is only so big... unless Tesla figures out on how to sell the Cybertruck for less than $60k ... they won't be selling 250k of those annually. *not* with the vehicle being basically only street legal in North America, those dimensions, and the polarizing design. Even more so than the X this Cybertruck has "faberge egg" and niche vehicle written all over it... Never mind that the Cybertruck is having plenty of competition from now through 2025.... Rivian/ F150 Lightning / Chevy EV / Ram EV .... all using the same Supercharger network with plug n charge

I'll give you the Rivian and F150 Lightning but the Chevy EV and Ram EV are more vaporware than the Tesla Roadster at this point.

 

[uscbucsfan]

I'll give you the Rivian and F150 Lightning but the Chevy EV and Ram EV are more vaporware than the Tesla Roadster at this point.

Chevy has delivered 14 of the Silverados to "customers"...hard to say it's more vaporware than the Roadster or CT at this point.

 

[MountainRatMat]

I'm interested in how they will handle the rearview mirror being blocked by the cover. It's not a digital mirror in the RC units and there are some shots that appear the screen shows the rearview camera go to the top of the screen when the cover is closed, but I'm not sure how that will be received.

Likely just the camera, it isn't mandatory in California and I'd assume it is similar in other states:

"According to CVC 26709, all motor vehicles must feature two or more rearview mirrors. One of the two mirrors must be on the driver's side. The second mirror can be located anywhere else, but it must provide the driver with a clear view of the vehicle's rear."

 

[uscbucsfan]

Likely just the camera, it isn't mandatory in California and I'd assume it is similar in other states:

"According to CVC 26709, all motor vehicles must feature two or more rearview mirrors. One of the two mirrors must be on the driver's side. The second mirror can be located anywhere else, but it must provide the driver with a clear view of the vehicle's rear."

Right, but it will be a huge difference displayed on the center screen than where rearview mirrors are. We know from the stalk discussion that some hate any change, regardless if they've tried it or not.

 

[MountainRatMat]

Chevy has delivered 14 of the Silverados to "customers"...hard to say it's more vaporware than the Roadster or CT at this point.

I stand corrected, I did not know deliveries have started but a quick google search reveals they have.

 

[T3SLAROD]

That roll up cover is going to be a service center issue quite often.

Also, that 6’ bed looks more like 5’ with that lip/ledge …… meaning anything taller than that isn’t going to fit

 

[Earl]

Likely just the camera, it isn't mandatory in California and I'd assume it is similar in other states:

"According to CVC 26709, all motor vehicles must feature two or more rearview mirrors. One of the two mirrors must be on the driver's side. The second mirror can be located anywhere else, but it must provide the driver with a clear view of the vehicle's rear."

Does that apply to trucks?

 

[MountainRatMat]

Does that apply to trucks?

Yes, the only exception is motorcycles.

 

[texas_star_TM3]

That roll up cover is going to be a service center issue quite often.

Also, that 6’ bed looks more like 5’ with that lip/ledge …… meaning anything taller than that isn’t going to fit

the tonneau cover completely covering the rear window is.... well.... odd. meanwhile in traditional trucks you can get a tonneau cover - and - an automatic opening rear window...

 

[Earl]

Yes, the only exception is motorcycles.

It seems that, what I've always considered "Side-view mirrors" are deemed to be "rear-view" mirrors, thus solving the issue for the CT of

how they will handle the rearview mirror being blocked by the cover.

 

[uscbucsfan]

It seems that, what I've always considered "Side-view mirrors" are deemed to be "rear-view" mirrors, thus solving the issue for the CT of

It doesn't solve it. My question wasn't about standards, but driver opinions of not being able to use the installed rear-view mirror whenever the cover is closed.

 

[derekmw]

the tonneau cover completely covering the rear window is.... well.... odd. meanwhile in traditional trucks you can get a tonneau cover - and - an automatic opening rear window...

I can't believe I never noticed that. lol, so true

 

[gillfoto]

I can't believe I never noticed that. lol, so true

Optimus will adapt

 

[Mengy]

the tonneau cover completely covering the rear window is.... well.... odd. meanwhile in traditional trucks you can get a tonneau cover - and - an automatic opening rear window...

The center rearview mirror might have a camera view option, so when the cover is closed blocking the mirror it switches to display mode and shows a rear camera view.

We'll know in a few weeks.

 

[Earl]

It doesn't solve it. My question wasn't about standards, but driver opinions of not being able to use the installed rear-view mirror whenever the cover is closed.

Box trucks, cargo vans, hearses, trucks pulling trailers, etc: None have or have use of a center rear-view mirror. The side 'rear-view' mirrors suffice legally apparently according to:

Likely just the camera, it isn't mandatory in California and I'd assume it is similar in other states:

"According to CVC 26709, all motor vehicles must feature two or more rearview mirrors. One of the two mirrors must be on the driver's side. The second mirror can be located anywhere else, but it must provide the driver with a clear view of the vehicle's rear."

I suppose many drivers will grouse about not having the center one though. Grousing seems to be a very popular pastime.

 

[uscbucsfan]

Box trucks, cargo vans, hearses, trucks pulling trailers, etc: None have or have use of a center rear-view mirror. The side 'rear-view' mirrors suffice legally apparently according to:

I suppose many drivers will grouse about not having the center one though. Grousing seems to be a very popular pastime.

You aren't reading what I'm posting. That's fine, others have.

 

[uscbucsfan]

The center rearview mirror might have a camera view option, so when the cover is closed blocking the mirror it switches to display mode and shows a rear camera view.

We'll know in a few weeks.

In the RC vehicles it's a standard mirror. The backup camera shows in a small window at the top of the screen. I think it was in Elon's at the racetrack, but I'll look for it tomorrow.

 

[UkNorthampton]

I stand corrected, I did not know deliveries have started but a quick google search reveals they have.

They were required (like a single Hummer) for CEO/Executive bonuses. Legacy EVs aren't real.

 

[T3SLAROD]

They were required (like a single Hummer) for CEO/Executive bonuses. Legacy EVs aren't real.

oh…. They are real… ask Elon why he’s made so many changes to the CT to make sure it’s like those Legacy EV’s…. Don’t worry your stock is safe