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Cybertruck "Foundation series" is a fantastic exercise in economics! ... and PROFITable

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The Cybertruck "Foundation series" is a fantastic exercise in economics! ... and very profitable for Tesla!
(background; I've taught university economics for 6+ yrs)

TL;DR: Tesla is figuring out the market for Cybertrucks. They are necessarily doing "price discovery" here, figuring out what the demand side of the market will bear. More importantly, and more profitably for Tesla, Inc. (and TSLA holders), they are executing a fascinating program of "price discrimination" where they maximize profit by pricing Cybertruck higher for those who are more willing to pay that higher price. They've not entered the market with a single price for a particular configuration of the vehicle; they are rather embarking on a very clever program to find the high-willingness-to-pay buyers, and collect an extraordinary price from that subset of all Cybertruck buyers, before they make vehicles available to the more general market, who simply want to purchase at the published prices of 30 November 2023.

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Tesla began a period of what economist's call "price discovery" on 30 November 2023, with the initial deliveries of the Cybertruck.
  • Tesla understands the supply side: they know their costs to mfg a Cybertruck now, and they know better than us how rapidly they might ascend the manufacturing S-curve.
  • But they do not (yet) know what the "willingness to pay" is on the demand side. And they could not: until they published prices on 30 Nov and begin to see how the mere "reservations" turn into confirmed orders, by buyers using the configurator to actually order a particular model and option set for the car, and contractually obligate themselves to pay a certain price.
Tesla did not allow any random bunch of reservations to be configured in those first couple of weeks. Only a very few people, selected by some means we don't have full information about, were able to receive a Cybertruck then. There is little market knowledge there for Tesla to learn from.
Now, two weeks on, Tesla has access to a couple weeks of data on new reservations (at $250 ea.) and on any cancellations, as some number of the legacy reservation holders (at $100 ea.) might have decided they can't afford the newly-released higher prices for Cybertruck, and chosen to get their reservation fee refunded.
This is something of new knowledge for them; but not much.

However, the really large advantage Tesla has—with a novel new truck, the relatively-hot Tesla EV brand, seemingly good performance in various truck metrics, etc.—is the HUMONGOUS database of people (1+ million?) with email addresses who have put a (small) amount down to reserve some nebulous future benefit: possibly obtain an earlier allocation of scarce Cybertrucks during the early months/years before Tesla manufacturing capacity can meet the real demand. Real demand will only be determined when buyers must put real skin in the game. How? By placing a strong contract to purchase a particularly-configured Cybertruck at a particular price for a Tesla-estimated delivery date, and then forfeit that money if they do not follow through and close the deal.

The Foundation-series order approach is a fantastically beneficial exercise to separate the potential buyers on that very large list who are willing to pay a (much) higher price for the Cybertruck Foundation series basket of goods—branding, elite labeling, early(er) access, Full Self-Driving, etc.—from those who have a lower "willingness to pay". This is the classic concept known as "price discrimination", taught in any university intro microeconomics course. The profit maximizing strategy is to "sell the same good to different consumers at different prices" dependent on their willingness to pay.

As your basic econ textbook will teach you, there are three conditions necessary for price discrimination to be successful for a company:
  1. Preventing demanders from exchanging amongst themselves. If others can straightforwardly buy and sell the product, then they will “arbitrage” the trades, and will collect the profit that would have otherwise gone to the company that supplied the product. Entrepreneurial economic actors are always alert for these sorts of opportunities, and if the "rules of the game" don't prevent them from doing so, then we can expect to see quite a lot of this behavior. Tesla has contractual rules to limit this behavior.
  2. Distinguishing among different demanders. The company can do this easily here via the Foundation series offering, by adding the +$20,000 fee to the published price, and simply observing the take rate as they gradually sort through Tesla's very large backlog of reservations, dribbling out configuration opportunities at a pace of their choice, and refining their own model of "price discovery" as they note the take rate of different groups of reservation holders over time.
  3. Controlling any resentment that might prompt potential buyers to take their business somewhere else. Most Tesla customers won't have a big issue here, since Tesla is claiming to throw in a number of extra benefits that (vs. the official published prices on the website) are "worth" much of the $20k increase in price (FSD at $15k, for example). Of course, the market price for FSD is much lower (can't resell it, low take rate, etc.) and the marginal cost of providing it to one more owner is nearly zero to Tesla.

Tesla can readily meet all three conditions here with early Cybertruck sales using the Foundation series program.

At the end of the day, my take on the this is that Tesla published a set of prices on delivery day. They were higher than Tesla had projected on unveiling day in 2019. The news cycle has now run its course, some reservation holders are mad, and whatever downside Tesla is gonna get from that is already known.

But Tesla has the incredible opportunity to maximize profit by, two weeks on, adding another $20,000 in price for anyone who actually wants to get a Cybertruck in the near-term. Then, gradually working through the huge reservations list, and only selling to those buyers willing to pay the extra $20k, at least during the early months of Cybertruck production.

Brilliant!
(if you are Tesla, Inc., or a TSLA stockholder)

Less satisfying if you are (now) one of the potential buyers who, unlike condition no. 3, you understand what is going on, and your "resentment" is rather less controlled.

That's my take. I don't mean to throw shade on Tesla here. I'm trying to merely explain descriptively what is going on, and for many who haven't thought about economics ever, or not since that one required course they took in university, provide some helpful understanding.

Happy to engage in any serious questions, or corrections, or confusion about my post.

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Social status. I'd assume to impress other truck owners. I wouldn't know. The only truck I've owned was a very old Dodge Dakota that I inherited when my grandfather passed away 20 yrs ago. I had no use case for it, but it was free. Kept it a couple yrs.

Why else would anyone buy any vehicle they don't really have a use for if not for the "status", or appearance they're trying to portray, regardless of what it cost?

Guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

Yeah we will have to agree to disagree. Ive never looked at any Truck driver and said.... "damn that dude is living the good life......." WTF.....

As far as impressing other Truck drivers, then you could say the same thing about any car that the owner modifies, they are trying to impress the stock car drivers or other modified of the same brand/trim..... that is not the case.

What you just described is the Cybertruck driver who's trading in their Model Y/X just because no one cares about their current car. They want to be pointed at and want pictures taken, to feel like a celebrity......
 
Yeah we will have to agree to disagree. Ive never looked at any Truck driver and said.... "damn that dude is living the good life......." WTF.....

As far as impressing other Truck drivers, then you could say the same thing about any car that the owner modifies, they are trying to impress the stock car drivers or other modified of the same brand/trim..... that is not the case.

What you just described is the Cybertruck driver who's trading in their Model Y/X just because no one cares about their current car. They want to be pointed at and want pictures taken, to feel like a celebrity......
Hey, I'm with you on that. I couldn't care less about a truck with a bunch of mods.

That's exactly what I'm saying. Doesn't matter if it's a truck, car, boat, those God awful custom golf carts, it's all about being seen.

I ask again, why else would someone buy a vehicle they don't have a use for? Give me another reason besides status.
 
Hey, I'm with you on that. I couldn't care less about a truck with a bunch of mods.

That's exactly what I'm saying. Doesn't matter if it's a truck, car, boat, those God awful custom golf carts, it's all about being seen.

I ask again, why else would someone buy a vehicle they don't have a use for? Give me another reason besides status.

I have a Miata, I don’t go to the track but I enjoy Taking it on backroads. One of the best driving cars in the world.

I have a 4 door Model 3 that I am usually the only driving in it. I don’t go on road trips, but it’s the best commuter in the world.

I don’t have a Miata or Model 3 because of “Status”….
 
Yeah we will have to agree to disagree. Ive never looked at any Truck driver and said.... "damn that dude is living the good life......." WTF.....

As far as impressing other Truck drivers, then you could say the same thing about any car that the owner modifies, they are trying to impress the stock car drivers or other modified of the same brand/trim..... that is not the case.

What you just described is the Cybertruck driver who's trading in their Model Y/X just because no one cares about their current car. They want to be pointed at and want pictures taken, to feel like a celebrity......
They may also want to hang some of those “balls” underneath so they can call it a “male truck”… 🤣
 
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Tesla had the founders edition for other models as well. And one does get some extra features for it albeit not worth it IMO.

But since the founders edition (I guess) is selling well, to raise the price even further is a bit different. I assume that’s what Elon means.
Right, that was completely different. The very first cars where special and had all the options, they've done that before.
But this is deliberately extending the time the "foundation" edition is available, so it's not special at all, it's just a cynical cash grab because they're already years late on delivery. So they are doing exactly what he said they wouldn't and charging $20k extra to get delivery early.
But we already know we can't trust anything he says to be accurate, especially when it comes to money or time.
 
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Right, that was completely different. The very first cars where special and had all the options, they've done that before.
But this is deliberately extending the time the "foundation" edition is available, so it's not special at all, it's just a cynical cash grab because they're already years late on delivery. So they are doing exactly what he said they wouldn't and charging $20k extra to get delivery early.
But we already know we can't trust anything he says to be accurate, especially when it comes to money or time.
The extra 20k does buy some additional items. Wether it’s worth it or not, that’s up to the buyer.

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Good analysis, but one key thing left out IMO.

I just got my "Limited Edition" Foundation Series "give Elon $1000 non-refundable" email two days ago, but have no OFFICIAL (asked Tesla on chat today and confirmed Tesla itself doesn't know) word on HOW LIMITED it is, nor on whether there will be some legal prevention of resale within the first year.

Without knowing if the limit is 1000, 20,000, or 1 million, the value of Foundation Series could be very close to zero (okay, maybe $3000) if you don't want FSD. Even if you do want FSD, you are paying $5000-$8000 for getting a "Limited Edition" where you have no idea what that actually means.

I was told if I don't click through to buy my Foundation Series now, I keep my original position in the reservation queue, so that's my plan for now. Even then, I had ordered a $50k truck (in a super hot EV market) years back that is now $80k (in a VERY WEAK EV market) so I may not click through when I can get it for $80k.

While I agree it is somewhat smart of Tesla to do this as a way of "feeling out" the market and making a bit more profit in the process, to me it is much the same as going to an amusement park. You pay your $60 normal ticket and you stand in lines for hours lucky to get on a few rides and of course line cutting is illegal .... Unless you pay for some fast pass/foundation series/... BS , then line cutting is no longer illegal. It turns amusement parks into two class systems whereby the lower class rightfully can get very angry at the upper who can go on a ride 3 times (in some poorly managed parks) while the rest of us have barely moved 10 feet closer to our first ride. All line cutting results in many unhappy people, even if it costs a lot; when I've had the fast pass I also felt guilty walking past all those without knowing how long they've waited...
 
Good analysis, but one key thing left out IMO.

I just got my "Limited Edition" Foundation Series "give Elon $1000 non-refundable" email two days ago, but have no OFFICIAL (asked Tesla on chat today and confirmed Tesla itself doesn't know) word on HOW LIMITED it is, nor on whether there will be some legal prevention of resale within the first year.

Without knowing if the limit is 1000, 20,000, or 1 million, the value of Foundation Series could be very close to zero (okay, maybe $3000) if you don't want FSD. Even if you do want FSD, you are paying $5000-$8000 for getting a "Limited Edition" where you have no idea what that actually means.

I was told if I don't click through to buy my Foundation Series now, I keep my original position in the reservation queue, so that's my plan for now. Even then, I had ordered a $50k truck (in a super hot EV market) years back that is now $80k (in a VERY WEAK EV market) so I may not click through when I can get it for $80k.

While I agree it is somewhat smart of Tesla to do this as a way of "feeling out" the market and making a bit more profit in the process, to me it is much the same as going to an amusement park. You pay your $60 normal ticket and you stand in lines for hours lucky to get on a few rides and of course line cutting is illegal .... Unless you pay for some fast pass/foundation series/... BS , then line cutting is no longer illegal. It turns amusement parks into two class systems whereby the lower class rightfully can get very angry at the upper who can go on a ride 3 times (in some poorly managed parks) while the rest of us have barely moved 10 feet closer to our first ride. All line cutting results in many unhappy people, even if it costs a lot; when I've had the fast pass I also felt guilty walking past all those without knowing how long they've waited...
It’s “limited” to the number they can sell! 🤣 A Charlatan doing charlatan work.
 
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Your post is a thorough and accurate assessment. You hit the nail right on the head. Economic genius on the part of TESLA. Well done!

More ECONOMIC GENIUS to come:
And now the bean counters have added a few more incentives. For 30,000 referral points (referring three Tesla buyers who follow through with a purchase), some Tesla owners may move up to the front of the line. Notice, I say some. Tesla controls the faucet on these, while the minions work feverishly to get new referrals. What a way to incentivize sales of other models, without the high cost of advertising.

And yesterday, it was announced that if you want to spend 1,000 referral points on a "Sweepstakes" to win a CYBERTRUCK. No mention of odds or announcement on that one. (one month??, two years??) I threw in 1,000 points, and I am not waiting for Publisher's Clearing House to ring my doorbell.

Ask those referral kings who are still waiting for their free Roadsters. I don't know about you, but I am starting to feel a bit like a Telsa referral whore, whereas I would really like to be referring individuals because of a great quality product, not some crazy inequitable incentive program that changes almost daily.

I am sure their methods certainly increase those sales numbers for the bean counters. Not doing much for the investors though. (Disclaimer: I have been OUT of TSLA stock for the past year, and I enjoy not losing money (TSLA is now at early 2021 stock prices).

Add to this that Tesla employees have priority (One, I know, who reserved a CYBERTRUCK just seven months ago, got his invite last week), and did you ever get the feeling that you are moving DOWN the list instead of UP, as CYBERTRUCKS come into greater production numbers?

Perhaps the next incentive will be giving free rides to prospective customers in your Tesla for 1,000 referral points (Free advertising decal for the side of your vehicle).

Any sense out there of whether Tesla will make its way down the entire list of those who "Reserved", or cut to another production (Dual non-Foundation, Tri) at some point? According to your economic principles, which I totally agree with, it would economically be in TESLA's best business interest to walk down the entire list and sell as many of the overpriced FOUNDATION series as possible. When I say overpriced, I understand that there is some perceived value in having the first CYBERTRUCK on the block, and that is worth some monetary amount.

My rant. Genuinely interested in other opinions.
 
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So I just got the email to order my cybertruck but don't want foundation series... what's the process to hold off until the normal versions ship without cancelling my order entirely? Service and sales phone nobody answers and the order page has no option to hold off on foundation series. I want the Dual motor but without all the Foundation fluff, do I just ignore the email prompting me to configure and wait till they start selling the normal versions and if I do will I be prioritized for delivery once those models are indeed shipping?
 
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lol well when thought about over the stretch of time you would own the vehicle for plus the add ons your getting.. not to mention after a year I’m sure it’ll still be worth more than you paid and resale clause will have expired

But you could take those $20k and throw them into T$LA…. What you get is just not worth the extra $20k, unless you are making YT videos
 
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So I just got the email to order my cybertruck but don't want foundation series... what's the process to hold off until the normal versions ship without cancelling my order entirely? Service and sales phone nobody answers and the order page has no option to hold off on foundation series. I want the Dual motor but without all the Foundation fluff, do I just ignore the email prompting me to configure and wait till they start selling the normal versions and if I do will I be prioritized for delivery once those models are indeed shipping?
I’m just ignoring the email.
 
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Any see out there of whether Tesla will make its way down the entire list of those who "Reserved", or cut to another production (Dual non-Foundation, Tri) at some point? According to your economic principles, which I totally agree with, it would economically be in TESLA's best business interest to walk down the entire list and sell as many of the overpriced FOUNDATION series as possible. When I say overpriced, I understand that there is some perceived value in having the first CYBERTRUCK on the block, and that is worth some monetary amount.

My rant. Genuinely interested in other opinions.
When production capacity exceeds the number of people willing to quickly say "yes", and pay big $$$ on a Foundation series, then they'll open up the other trims. That's just following the logical course of things. In the meantime they'll keep on going down the list. That's my take.

My guess is 2024 will be the year of the Foundation Series.
 
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But you could take those $20k and throw them into T$LA…. What you get is just not worth the extra $20k, unless you are making YT videos
That would be a sin.
TSLA is down 21% this year and headed down further for the near term. Production is increasing while demand is decreasing.
Interest rates are still high. TSLA
is less per share now than in Oct 21.
Been out for a year. There are far, far better stock opportunities.
 
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When production capacity exceeds the number of people willing to quickly say "yes", and pay big $$$ on a Foundation series, then they'll open up the other trims. That's just following the logical course of things. In the meantime they'll keep on going down the list. That's my take.

My guess is 2024 will be the year of the Foundation Series.
I totally agree. They have to make up for that decrease in overhead on other models somehow.
I was shocked to see the excess S,Y and X inventory sitting on lots. Check the op line inventory. Wow! Some new vehicles with $2780 discounts. My friend just got 2000 Ultra Red and $1500 wheels for $300.

Fire sale.
 
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That would be a sin.
TSLA is down 21% this year and headed down further for the near term. Production is increasing while demand is decreasing.
Interest rates are still high. TSLA
is less per share now than in Oct 21.
Been out for a year. There are far, far better stock opportunities.
The fanatics will stop at nothing to support Elon and Tesla. Nothing.
 
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