If you do not mind, Please post your trade in offer from Tesla so we can compare note

[breser]

It seems evident to me that Tesla is not selling these vehicles themselves but are selling them to other dealers. I'm sure they're planning to start a CPO program, but I don't think any of the vehicles they're buying right now are going to be used for that.

 

[lolachampcar]

I can not flush this out any more at this time but I will say from personal experience that-

(1) Tesla is significantly under bidding wholesale numbers for the cars and

(2) Tesla appears to be sharply moving away from selling their MS trade ins to dealers to keeping the cars and actively attempting to exclude dealers.

I am in the middle of things right now and will add more fact based information when I can.

 

[pmppk]

Finally got the offer back.

June 2013 P85 with 17,000 miles. Offer is $68,100.. or 72% of purchase price minus tax credits.

 

[lolachampcar]

Mine was a July 2013 P+ with 17K for $68.5. Apparently Tesla does not value the P+ package

 

[NOLA_Mike]

And mine is a June 2013 P85+ with 14k miles for $70k. Consistent I guess...

 

[HankLloydRight]

Mine was a July 2013 P+ with 17K for $68.5. Apparently Tesla does not value the P+ package

Yikes, that pretty much described my car, same month and mileage. $68.5?? wow. that blows.

I can't imagine what the value of the P85+ will be in 3-5 years.

 

[Bifff67]

Sept 2012 early Sig P85, 23k miles, $65K. Looks like a pattern is forming.

 

[pmppk]

What kind of offers are people getting from CarMax?

 

[lolachampcar]

The true current wholesale value for these cars is almost $10K higher.

 

[Bighorn]

The true current wholesale value for these cars is almost $10K higher.

I started off this thread with a friend who was offered 67,900 by Tesla. He has since asked for a quote from a used car dealer. Offered $82,000. So I'd concur that Tesla is offering more that $10K less than wholesale--$14,100 in this case.

 

[shadowinstallz]

I looked at cars.com; the cheapest listing is $44,500, but that's for a 2012 S60 with 30K miles on it.

Almost jumped on this, but its a SALVAGE vehicle. has damage

 

[breser]

breser I recall you were willing to lose the $2500 deposit to get the sensors, so consider it just another $1800 to get a brand new vehicle with 2500 less miles.

please keep up updated with your decision, be interested to know what premium you place on the autopilot features.

I'll be accepting their offer of $82,000. We're working out the details now. I haven't said anything till now because I asked if my aftermarket paint protection or tint would raise the quote any. They told me they couldn't give me anything for that because anything aftermarket that's been done is a risk for them because they have to stand behind it. So it's actually more than just the $4,320 since I have to add the price of the aftermarket changes. Bringing it closer to $7k.

If retrofit seemed possible I figured I would go as far as paying $5k to do it. So this is going another $2k beyond that for a whole new vehicle. As much as I hate to spend this money, I realize that if I'm not happy in 3-4 years trading is going to be far more expensive. For one thing the sales tax exemption goes away on July 1st, 2015 here. But I'd also expect the federal tax credit to be working towards phasing out by then (if not already be gone entirely). I'm sure that Tesla will roll out new improvements over the life of the car, but this seems like a huge thing to miss out on now for me.

At this point I'm trying to decide if I want to wait till February and order with AWD. AWD isn't really a huge deal to me, but the extra range is attractive.

 

[Seesaw]

Congrats breser, I'm sure its not the way you imagined things going but hopefully it works out for the best.

 

[kooljack]

At this point I'm trying to decide if I want to wait till February and order with AWD. AWD isn't really a huge deal to me, but the extra range is attractive.

If you get it in Feb, you can again get the $7500 tax credit for FY 2015

 

[breser]

If you get it in Feb, you can again get the $7500 tax credit for FY 2015

There's no limitation on getting the tax credit more than once in a year. In fact the form for the credit has a spot to take it 2 times.

 

[andrewket]

There's no limitation on getting the tax credit more than once in a year. In fact the form for the credit has a spot to take it 2 times.

I can verify this as well. Claimed 15k for a tesla and volt purchased in the same year.

 

[breser]

I should clarify though, you do have to have the tax liability to get any benefit from taking the credit. The maximum credit is equal to your tax liability. So if you had $14,000 tax liability in 2014 and took 2 EV credits worth $15,000. You'd lose that $1,000. If you expected your 2015 liability to be more than $7,500 then you would indeed be better off waiting until 2015 to get the second vehicle.In my particular situation a second credit in 2014 is not an issue.

But I've decided to get the 85D. If I'm going to wait I might as well get the AWD.

 

[MassModel3]

But I've decided to get the 85D.

Lemme guess.... GREEN?

 

[breser]

Lemme guess.... GREEN?

Yes, only differences from the car in my signature is this time I'm getting the black headliner and AWD. Everything else is identical.

 

[firefisher]

I am going for a test drive in the Tesla next week. If I decide to go the Tesla route I would be very interested in purchasing a used vehicle for the right price. If anyone on the East Coast is interested in selling privately let me know. I do not think I will benefit a whole lot from the $7500 tax break so a used car may fit my bill. But I will check with my accountant to see if it helps.