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It is better to see Iranian drones and missiles heading south than towards Ukraine if they are heading anywhere at all. Chances are much better of them all being blown out of the sky. Israel's response may further reduce Teheran's ability to support the invader. Iran may need all those...

My bud still brings my old P90D+ around for lunch and I get to drive in it from time to time. I do prefer the damper valving on the + but the PLAID's suspension geometry is Soooo superior that there really is no comparison. The mechanical grip with the PLAID is way better even with the more...

If Russia is not careful, they may actually remind all the rest of us (mostly Europe) that we really do share more in common than we have differences. This dude may re-unite the West like no other event since WWII. That is Irony.

No, not a bad at all. I've thought the same thing but, having lived and worked in some unstable places, I have to remind myself that people can get used to a lot of things as "normal" over time. It seems to take an equal amount of time to turn the ship around and undo all the damage.

This is an incredibly simple statement which belies the work required. It seems they are heading in the right direction but it has been generations to get to where they are and it will likely take some time to get to where they (and we) would ideally like them to be provided they get the...

If Europe is not proactively careful, they will be forced to spend a lot of their GDP on defense.

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$22,865 residual value. I was reasonably close with my $20k estimate. SF has the car.

I've asked but have yet to receive an offer as I too am curious.

The body shop worked diligently to get State Farm to reassess their position. SF has gone from a $20k estimate to making the car a total loss/salvage. The offer for current market value was accurate and fair. I've accepted the offer, SF has collected the car and it will likely go through the...

I pick sanity and, yes, I want it to prevail.

At least Jane F. was easy on the eyes.

The long and short of it is- $39k Tesla Shop estimate $20k insurance company estimate roughly $20k current value roughly $65k market value before the accident so, $6k in loss of use (rental car) and diminished value (more like $10k- $15k when the car sells after the repair) would make me whole...

My 21 Model S was just recently hit hard in the rear while stopped at a (red) traffic light. The at fault party's insurance company has accepted full liability but is playing games with damage estimates. As usual with this company, a Tesla authorized repair center quotes X and this company...

The car is back with the body shop that did the estimate for State Farm to dispatch a field estimator. My wife followed me and confirmed that all brake lights and turn signals are still working. Nice job Tesla :)

There is but one shop in West Palm Beach that is Tesla authorized and this is where the field adjuster will see the car and where it will be repaired if that is what is required. I'll keep this thread updated with the results of the estimate (from SF).

Per the original post Red Car Black Interior Not included wood trim 21" rims/tires with 4500 miles from new

State Farm is both my and the at fault party's insurer. I will not be made whole. Any expenditures on outside consultants is money out of pocket for me. State Farm's field appraiser will be examining the car at the Tesla Authorized shop. The shop has indicated they will pull panels to gain...

Not yet.. I got an estimate from the only authorized Tesla repair shop in my area the day after the accident. That is not good enough for State Farm. They have to have their estimator come look at it some time next week. If it is anything like my past experience with SF, their estimate will...

It seems when one lives in an extremely vulnerable glass house they should not throw stones (or give others reason to throw stones their way)

Best guess right now is around $20k......

I think you missed the point. I wanted the CCM brakes I purchased five months back and that this service center installed on my 21 Plaid moved over to the 23 Plaid. The refusal was based on the 21 Plaid being accident damaged. This was not a decision based on putting used parts on a car. It...

My 21 Plaid was stopped at a light and a pick up truck hit the back of the car so hard it launched the Plaid across three lanes of perpendicular traffic landing it sideways in the forth. Luckily for my daughter driving the car that (1) it was a Model S and (2) no one "T boned" her as that would...

Just got back from Atlanta with the replacement 23 Pliad. It was a Tesla lease repo then auction car. Very good value. Data point on Tesla's quality management approach. I ordered a replacement car the night of the accident as it was obvious to me the damage with significant enough to warrant...

Per my original posting, I'm reaching out to forum friends to see what the interest would be if the responsible party's insurance chooses to repair versus total the car. I do not know what the price would be nor if the car will even be available yet. I did this once before many years ago when...

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Judo Use your opponent's momentum against them (in our/US' case, stupidity).

This assumes two things I do not believe to be true. First, a treaty would be honored. Second, rewarding aggression with land would result in no further aggression. The two are linked of course but I think you see where I am going.

and yet it is incredibly on point when it comes to getting Ukraine the assistance it needs to fight on. It is a shame we can not be trusted with sharp objects. (and yes, I understand why it is off limits)

Yeh, and I predicted Ukraine was screwed as soon as one of our presidents tried to extort them....... That does not make Elon or I clairvoyant. Fix the wrongs in this world and Elon and I would not be correct.

Ukraine's fate was written when they did not generate dirt on Biden (or his son). It would have been equally sealed had they done so. It is sad that this is who we are but it does no good to stick our heads in the sand. In this instance, Ukraine is just one example of collateral damage and...

I became disillusioned with Haass (the pundit, not the machine tool company although I have a bone to pick with them as well) many months ago when he started with that crap. Regretfully, it looks like more are looking to follow his lead as we short attention span mericans focus on the latest...

The above is on point but I'm having a problem comparing expansion of a mutual defense agreement with one nation gobbling up another and attempting to wipe its culture off the map. It is not difficult for me to see the difference.........

same thing that is happening in the US :(

yes, but Tesla introduced all those nice hardware upgrades found in the refresh S to the 3 (and hopefully the Y sometime soon). If the refresh 3 is anything like the changes to the S, it is a completely different car to live with (software aside).

China would not survive the sanctions placed on Russia; not even a percentage of those sanctions. This alone negates the endless supply assertion.

I'm not even sure where to start. Texas perhaps (and before you start, one side of my family goes back hundreds of years there so I KNOW of what I write). You mention gaslighting. This appears to be your goal as you are flatly wrong on the facts. There is a place for this behavior but this...

Just not up to the task I guess. Just put me in the camp of not a fan.

Well over two years and the hatred has not receded. I'm forever selecting the wrong direction changing lanes then having to apologize to those around me when it does not cancel once established in the new lane.

The very first thing I noticed about my Plaid was putting it in track mode and seeing 1.1g lateral. Granted, my car is lowered with 20s but still using moderately sized PS4Ss. Whatever Tesla did in changing roll centers to properly use the battery placement and correct tire wear from too much...

Although off topic, I did want to comment on the drone shielding subject. Shielding will be in proportion to cost of the drone. 10k of cheap drones will have a simple faraday cage and inertial guidance once GPS integrity is lost (determined by comparing sets of satellites in view) making them...

Ukraine is so kind to return to Russians those pesky mines they left strewn about.

Inside out across the back (and yes, I know they are uni-directional).

All the previous S had significant rear negative camber and inner shoulder wear. Some of the new cars have the problem (mine does not - getting 30K without swapping versus 20k with swapping). This makes me think the issue we are seeing now is in alignment and not un-correctable geometry.

It was a cost effective online West Coast supplier. I do not remember which one. You folks have a lot of good wheel retailers in the LA area.

Square...... I rotate and the balance at the limit is good. I've got a pic somewhere of the traction circle in track mode with 1.1G lateral sustained. Whatever they did with the refresh to change the roll centers did wonders for mechanical grip. 30k miles per set.... Much better than the 20k...

Thank you Sage for making my point much more eloquently.

That decision was imposed on Germany. We are not in a position to impose that decision on Russia. It does not seem like ordinary Russian citizens (who remain in the country) are willing to make that change (and pay the price for doing so). Those that feel passionately about the issue have...