totteraptor
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Just look at the newest enhanced summon video - the car is driving in the left side of the road when left on its own.... that is simply veery far away from FSD.
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Just look at the newest enhanced summon video - the car is driving in the left side of the road when left on its own.... that is simply veery far away from FSD.
Guys, my vacation has me drinking some strong IPAs...
about to pull the trigger after reading this thread and seeing some youtube videos...
will update....got some amex points I can use towards it, so I might end up getting it for about $5k
Curiuos to hear your experienceI literally got my update within an hour. Very impressed. Time to try it out tomorrow! So excited
Curiuos to hear your experience
I just coughed up the US$3K to upgrade from EAP to FSD, even though there is no immediate benefit.
I am hopeful we'll see HW3 upgrades in Q1, and maybe some usable FSD-specific features by then, such as red light and stop sign detection.
Enhanced Summon maybe viewed by Tesla as an important step towards FSD, but I find red light and stop sign detection to be a whole lot more important.
When I bought my car, FSD (according to Elon Musk) meant that you could summon your car from across the city and it would come to you. Or you could send it to pick up your kids and bring them home. I didn't buy it because I didn't believe it. I bought EAP, which I love. The differences between EAP and AP are (IMO) minor.
Now, FSD means that AP is extended to several new driver-assist features, but there must be a driver in the car who must pay attention at all times and must be ready to take over at a moment's notice. You must be fully alert the whole time.
People who have paid for FSD still to this day have no features that my car with EAP does not have. All they've done is stop selling the EAP package, and offer exactly the same features, for more money, and call it FSD, with promises of some pretty nice-sounding features (but still Level 2: full driver attention required) which they seem unable to provide.
My vote: Don't buy FSD. Your next car after this one might have something along the lines of FSD that's worth paying for. I believe it's coming. But it's a few years away, not a few months.
Yup. FSD from "basic-ass autopilot" is worth it IMO. But from EAP? Nope. I'm full of regrets for falling for that bamboozle.
IDK man what really convinced me was the autonomy day talk and how impressed they were with the version they were using on autonomy day.
From a technological standpoint, the NN makes a lot of sense and I believe Elon can do it without Lidar.
However, without Lidar, I can't see the car working during inclement weather.
I figure, the car is already a bargain, FSD was the only option I ordered, the rest of my car is 100% standard. IMO its a tough pill to swallow if you're already paying for the more expensive models.
Sadly, it appears the trend of just more parlor tricks and gimmicks will continue, at least in the near term. For those who are on the fence about dropping $6000 for FSD, my recommendation would be to wait until there is real functionality that you can rely on and trust with your life.LR would have been worth it to me if I hadn't moved to an itty bitty island. The PUP was definitely worth it, even though I would not have gotten it if the first production run had been available without it. FSD is a pig in a poke. It's vaporware until it's actually in customers' cars. And even then, they've admitted they can't do real FSD, so they'll call stoplight recognition at Level 2 (i.e., you can't count on it to actually stop) "FSD."
IDK man what really convinced me was the autonomy day talk and how impressed they were with the version they were using on autonomy day.
From a technological standpoint, the NN makes a lot of sense and I believe Elon can do it without Lidar.
However, without Lidar, I can't see the car working during inclement weather.
I figure, the car is already a bargain, FSD was the only option I ordered, the rest of my car is 100% standard. IMO its a tough pill to swallow if you're already paying for the more expensive models.