I keep my arms and foot relaxed unless I'm approaching a situation I've deemed risky, as you described. Though I acknowledge that it's not exactly proper and my chances of reacting to an emergency that I did not anticipate are diminished.
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FSD v12.x (end to end AI)
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- #fixphantombraking autopilot chill is not chill elon is an ass fix fsd extreme late deceleration fsd does not commit to go fsd does not maintain proper speed fsd hard and late braking fsd has decision wobble fsd jerky driving fsd late deceleration fsd sometimes may not detect train crossings fsd stops too early too quickly fsd stops too far behind line fsd tailgating in city streets
Is there actually such a thing anymore? I mean "us testers". There's FSDS users, and non-users. Of the users, some of them post about it here. There are the influencers, who Tesla may deign to release to first, but isn't it basically just their testers and the public now? I don't know, I'm just asking. I can't think of any other demarcations of the ecosystem.
That would be great. My only 2 disengagements today were both coming up to construction sites with police managing traffic flow with hand gestures. Once most potholes get fixed hand gestures are easily my top disengagement. Hand held stop/go signs are not used here.
No, I don't have any unintentional disengagements anymore. When I was first using it, all my unintentional disengagements were from trying to clear the nags by applying torque on the wheel. I solved that by only using the "unused" buttons on steering wheel (sideways clicks on the right scroll wheel and the cruise control button) to clear them.
Prior to figuring that out, I noticed that the required amount of torque on the steering wheel to clear the nag is variable depending on a couple things. As far as I can tell, if I got the nag from the camera thinking I was looking down at a screen too much it requires more torque to clear it. Also, it seems like if I was on a long straight with a constant light torque on the wheel, I needed to apply torque the opposite direction to clear the nag without disengaging. It seems like the change in torque needed to clear the nag is measured relative to the constant torque I had been applying to the wheel but the torque threshold to disengage FSD continued to be an absolute torque value.
We had this mug, probably still do but I haven't seen it for a while. Whenever I want to remind my wife how lucky she is, I remind her that I'm good for more than just parallel parking.
No, it's definitely a Google map data problem. Prior to about a year ago all the driveways in my area were visible on Google maps and in the Tesla navigation map (since it uses Google data). They disappeared in both places at the same time and also around that time everyone that uses an Android phone for navigation started going to the wrong place when coming to my house for the first time. The carat on the map is always in the right location on the map in the car. Also, I still had my old P85 when the problem started; it did not start when I upgraded to the new car.
I didn't notice any correlation like that. What I have noticed is that the nags are much more frequent around sunrise, sunset, and on very overcast days. I get almost no nags driving on a sunny day or at night. I'm guessing it might be caused by glare on my glasses preventing the interior camera from tracking where I'm looking.
You better believe it. I have been part of some similar research back in the past as a Time & Motion study engineer, and also as noticed in my own daily driving experience. The underlying motto being "Keep moving" is always better, which is also why automobile assembly lines are always in motion. They never stop at any station.
Interesting. Btw I meant when FSD is new to your account, not when you first engage it for the trip. Might've been ambiguous.
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The correct way to clear the nag is to
- Use one of the little knobs on the steering wheel
- Pull the wheel slightly in one direction and hold it till the nag goes away
People who "wiggle" the wheel instead, have problem making the nag go away.
I had many situations on a recent long trip where I found the navigation instructions confusing but the car knew exactly where to go and which lane to get into to get back on the interstate.
I am looking around but not everywhere all at once. In any given instant the car sees far more than I do.
I find it easy to rest my foot on the pedal without applying force and to rest my hands on the yoke lifting only briefly when the car turns.
I think your point is probably lost on me. Some people find FSDS more annoying than driving themselves. I find it quite restful and am very comfortable supervising as I can focus far more attention on what is going on around me.
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Ok, how do FSD updates work now with FSD 12.3.6...I have 2024.3.25 and the latest spring update is 2024.14.6 (which has FSD 12.3.6) and I see 2024.3.25 cars getting the spring update.
My question is will FSD 12.4 be a newer version (2024.15.x)? Or will some of the 2024.3.25 cars not get the spring update and get 12.4 with a lesser update version (2024.9.x)?
My question is will FSD 12.4 be a newer version (2024.15.x)? Or will some of the 2024.3.25 cars not get the spring update and get 12.4 with a lesser update version (2024.9.x)?
EVNow
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Thats possible - I've been using AP/FSD now for 4+ years, so I don't even "notice" the nags.
Apologies if this has been posted before, but I'm trying to figure out if any setting changes can fix this mistake FSD beta keeps running into?
Running 12.4.6 - Real life example just today: Navigating to highway entrance from regular street roads. Two left turn lanes but the one on the right is the correct one to choose as the highway entrance is on the right lane after the turn. Instead, the Tesla purposely goes into the turn lane on the left, completes the turn and then tries to force itself into a lane change to get on the lane to turn into the highway. Why does it do this when it clearly knows that staying in the turn lane on the right is clearly the only realistic option to do?
Is anyone else running into this? I feel like I'm doing something wrong if this is happening. FWIW I live in Savannah, GA. Is it maybe because there's not enough Tesla drivers here for them to correct these mistakes? TYI!
Running 12.4.6 - Real life example just today: Navigating to highway entrance from regular street roads. Two left turn lanes but the one on the right is the correct one to choose as the highway entrance is on the right lane after the turn. Instead, the Tesla purposely goes into the turn lane on the left, completes the turn and then tries to force itself into a lane change to get on the lane to turn into the highway. Why does it do this when it clearly knows that staying in the turn lane on the right is clearly the only realistic option to do?
Is anyone else running into this? I feel like I'm doing something wrong if this is happening. FWIW I live in Savannah, GA. Is it maybe because there's not enough Tesla drivers here for them to correct these mistakes? TYI!
I haven’t had to apply slight torque to the yoke since FSDS - those nags just went away. Before FSD I was often nagged to apply some pressure on long straight stretches even though my hands were on the yoke.
I got 2 nags today in 70 miles of driving, simply because I was texting with my phone....
