DanCar
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In a future update: When FSD is full screen, will still see a small map in upper right hand corner.
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Elon: FSD Beta tweets
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Knightshade
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AMD not being upgradable to in previous cars (like MCU1->2 was) looking like it'll increasingly create a 2-class situation for updates.
AlanSubie4Life
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so basically after less than 3 years Tesls is telling us that updates increasingly won't matter feature wise if you don't have the AMD processor... and you cant even get a retrofit ....
Knightshade
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TBF, MCU 2 is from 2017 (introduced in the Model 3), so quite a bit more than 3 years old. But yeah really weird they didn't think of retrofit in designing MCU3- nice revenue opportunity lost.
didn't AMD get introduced in December '21 ? so if you bought a model 3 in november '21 ... you are out of luck now regarding major update features?
Knightshade
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Sorry I thought you were talking about lifespan from start of MCU2, not the end of it
KArnold
Active Member
Two of the three enhancements are while parked. Smells like a serious developer resource issue to me, just like v12.
yeah. just painting the worst case. Buying a Model 3 in November '21 and being told ~2.5 years later that the latest update largely doesn't full feature support it anymore is wild. The intel MCU is plenty capable to show different visualizations. More a developer resource issue and Tesla deciding not to go out of its way to make it work on intel MCUs.
Knightshade
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Also wasn't ASS and banish supposed to arrive THIS month?
Feels more like another sales lever. Will probably be as effective as the others. Imagine if Tesla had a real, full time CEO…
Wasn't robotaxi supposed to arrive in 2020?
boonedocks
MS LR Blk/Blk 19”
Kinda expected we would start waning off some of the bells and whistles with the older, 2017 in our case, MCU2 HW3 Model X’s (guessing S’ too) when we didn’t get the remote viewing of cameras in the app many updates ago.
Slowly but surely we’ll be left behind….
Slowly but surely we’ll be left behind….
Yup. I have a Model Y that's technically a "2022" year-model. It was delivered to me as a new vehicle in Dec '21, and it has the older ARM chip (MCU 2). As a new customer, I had no idea about these details of course, or I would've rejected it and waited on an AMD model. The car is only ~2.5 years old for us now, but the MCU is already showing its age. We drive a ton of miles, I think we're currently at ~72K miles in that time. Paid for $10K for FSD based on the sales shtick about it being imminently complete and usable as well, and then had to be part of the group that kept safety-scoring for ~6 months until SS-beta went to a fresh wave in mid-2022. Lots of things about this transaction annoy me in hindsight. On the other hand, I love the car and it's pretty amazing to get a front row seat to the evolution of the tech, so there's that
yeah. unless the intel MCU can't handle these changes... it's a strong indication that this is intentional.
Daniel in SD
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What I don’t understand about all this drama is why Tesla can’t develop new car models and a robotaxi at the same time. Robotaxis, especially as Tesla envisions them, are mostly a software problem so how many people can Tesla actually pull from other projects?
Ironically horse carriages are more autonomous than FSD is right now.
Ironically horse carriages are more autonomous than FSD is right now.
DanCar
Active Member
I think Tesla is actually developing both at the same time, but prioritizing roboTaxi. There are differences. For example do you want doors that auto close for a robotaxi? I'm hoping that Tesla rethinks the FSD hardware and adds additional cameras. Probably needs a couple of microphones that can listen externally and additional indoor cameras to make sure occupants aren't trashing the car.
Daniel in SD
(supervised)
It just doesn’t seem that hard to make multiple variants of the same platform. BMW makes 7 suvs, 6 cars, 4 evs, and a sports car right now. And a lot of those are available in different body styles.
For the robotaxi just slap on some better self cleaning cameras, sliding doors, steer by wire, and call it a day.
Really seems like they’re getting the cart before the horse.
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