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I wonder if the infrastructure/installation of the chademo chargers are *mainly* setup for ~25kW max charging which seems to be what the LEAF (and i-MEV) does?Whoa! Sticker shock for sure. 70 mph isn't great either - I would have expected better. I'm happy with superchargers.
I'm guessing Leaf owners to should chime in. They probably know the actual average and peak charging speeds at the 50kW chargers.I wonder if the infrastructure/installation of the chademo chargers are *mainly* setup for ~25kW max charging which seems to be what the LEAF (and i-MEV) does?
There's a couple things. First, the CHAdeMO socket itself is expensive (don't remember off the top of my head but definitely over $100, maybe a couple hundred). Second, it has to handle more power, and as jerry33 points out, it's more complicated than the UMC. I would have expected it to cost even more.I don't know enough about the CHADEMO standard but I don't understand why the adapter is $1000, that seems outrageous to me. Why is it so much more than other adapters? Can someone explain why the CHADEMO makes the adapter so complicated and expensive?
Admittedly I wouldnt use it much around town. As you said, Tucson trips perhaps, and certainly for LA trips, quite a few out there. Getting to SCs while in LA may not always be easy (assuming I can get to LA at some point in the future). So having access to use Chademo would be helpful. And I'm assuming there will be some future buildout, though it's not a given. I like (as Elon would say) "optionality".
The way I see it, I'd need to use this adapter at least 30 times to justify the cost, especially if it would only be used on a couple trips a year. Wonder if Tesla would consider renting them for ~$100/week? Either that, or get 4-5 locals together and go in on a shared one...
That was my thought as well. I'd buy one and then rent it out to others in the area for $50 a week. Unlikely to make me money, but should at least offset some of the cost. And the only one with an upfront investment is me (so no need to create a little club with bylaws and rules and reasons for things to go south...)That is my thought also. Get a group of 3-4 local Tesla owners you know and have a shared Chademo adapter.
And this corresponds to what the adapter shop pages states:WA & OR residents stand to benefit the most.
Take advantage of CHAdeMO’s network of 50 kW charging stations by enabling onboard hardware and purchasing an external adapter. CHAdeMO stations charge at the rate of approximately 70 miles of range per hour of charge with locations primarily in the Pacific Northwest.
But you can see why the European market would really need a CHAdeMO solution, especially since there is a paucity of Superchargers there:
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heh, always fun to see our small Estonia on those maps. We've got some serious amount of 50 kW chargers and I'd be very interested in a full 50 kW charger as 25 really is no step up from the twin charger capacity that every single charger in Estonia can do with Type-2 connector next to CHAdeMO at 22kW.
The European adapter will be different than the US one, so it's still possible for it to be 50kW even if it's confirmed the US one isn't.heh, always fun to see our small Estonia on those maps. We've got some serious amount of 50 kW chargers and I'd be very interested in a full 50 kW charger as 25 really is no step up from the twin charger capacity that every single charger in Estonia can do with Type-2 connector next to CHAdeMO at 22kW.
this is great news ... the price is lower than expected, low enough that we can group buy...
I don't understand why the adapter is $1000, that seems outrageous to me.