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Which cars are those that put safety first and refuse to allow people to participate in the extremely dangerous practice of adjusting the mirrors too far outward? those manufacturers should be congratulated. There are so many clueless "experts" saying that setting your mirrors so that you can't see pedestrians, cyclists, and motorcyclists, and so that you don't know if they've been knocked is a "good" thing. People need to return to adjusting their mirrors properly so that their blind spot is something they can see by turning their head, instead of something that can't be seen without sticking your head out the window.
Wait, why is adjusting mirrors outward "extremely dangerous"? I am interested in your reasoning, because there seems to be an abundance of evidence that outward adjustment is the safest option. And I agree, manufacturers should do everything possible to provide secondary features to back up eyes and mirrors.
Do you do those gymnastics with your head before every single lane change? if not, are you really sure you know what you're seeing? and if so, wouldn't it be easier to just have your mirrors set correctly and do a simple shoulder check?green!, While most experts disagree with you, yours is probably the best explanation I have seen for the other method. To overcome the drawbacks that you highlight, I do one move that addresses your concerns.
To make sure that my mirror has not been knocked out of adjustment I will move my head toward the door until I can see the rear of my car in the side view mirror. I do the same move if I need to check for an object in the small sliver of a blind spot that I may have.
Hopefully in the not-too-distant future, side view mirrors will become a thing of the past, improving aerodynamics and visibility with cameras.
Do you do those gymnastics with your head before every single lane change? if not, are you really sure you know what you're seeing? and if so, wouldn't it be easier to just have your mirrors set correctly and do a simple shoulder check?
Here's a PDF that has the right general idea, but doesn't go quite far enough in the testing.http://www.cartalk.com/sites/default/files/features/mirrors/CarTalkMirrors.pdf
To finish off what isn't said in the PDF, is .... as the car seen in the side mirror now continues to overtake you (ya, as if that ever happens in a Tesla!) ..anyway... as that car overtakes you ... before the car image completely leaves the side mirror coming along your side, you should notice the front of that car appearing in your peripheral vision without even moving your head from pointing directly forward. If you have that... your adjustment is golden. The ultimate goal (and test) is you will see any car or vehicle behind or beside you (the whole 180 degree arc to the rear) in at least one mirror at all times, and in more than one mirror if it's transitioning left or right... until that car leaves your side mirror.
Yes, I absolutely shoulder check every time. Are you telling me that you don't????? I sure hope you're nowhere near me on the road!!!!!!!!I suppose I could ask you the same thing. Do you do those gymnastics with your head before every single lane change?
And yet you just said your head stays facing forward...For liability sake no one would ever recommend to someone else not to check the blind spot.
The Tesla site is no longer claiming blind spot detection. Maybe they have come to their senses, but many of us bought the car expecting a passable version of this feature.
Before:
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Problem solved. Anyone who thought their car had blind spot detection was mistaken. No more lane departure either. Maybe it will reappear once they have AP 2.0 up and running.
Because Tesla is "different" sometimes that's a good thing, often it isn't, but it is what it is.If current mid price autos from the big three can have working BSM, why can't our Teslas?
I was taught in an advanced drivers course (for the track) to adjust mirrors outward. If done properly you shouldn't have any blind spots at all. When the instructor had us adjusting mirrors he would walk around the car and you would adjust so that you could see him at all times with minimal head movement or adjustments. I disagree that you "really don't have a clue where your mirror is actually pointed.". It takes a couple of days to get used to but then you get a heightened sense of what is around you. I feel way safer and more in control with my mirrors facing outward. Not sure that you can realistically declare this method "dangerous" as I have complete visibility without tweaking my neck around looking for blind spots.There is no way to eliminate all blind spots. You have a choice. Either the blind spot is touching the side of the car, and you can't see it by turning your head (mirrors too wide) or the blind spot is further forward and further away from the car where a simple shoulder check will see anything in it (mirrors properly adjusted)
the blind spot near your car is far more dangerous than the one further wide because you can't turn your head to see what's in it, and although it often isn't wide enough for a full car, it IS wide enough for a cyclist, motorbike, or pedestrian.
Additionally, if you can't see a sliver of the side of your car in your mirror, you really don't have a clue where your mirror is actually pointed, if it's been knocked you won't know, but your blind spot will have gone from dangerous, to extremely dangerous.
The image that propomnents of this extremely dangerous adjustment always show is pure fantasy, it neglects to show that you can't see what's sitting on the dotted lines beside the car near the back, and not only can't you see it in any mirror, unlike with proper adjustment, you can't see it by shoulder checking either.