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You did the right thing. Any error you made was in not finding a way to let your wife know. As the host of the other family you had obligations to act as a host. And a good host would have driven them to their hotel. There is no way you are going to convince your wife now so maybe some...

The people of our country responded in many different ways to the mitigation attempts because we had Luddite politicians giving opposite advice and in some cases pushing through laws that made the mitigation actions illegal. We live in a fabulous country. At a time when we needed leadership we...

It does not really matter where the bug came from. What matters is that we learn from it how to be ready for the next one. Will Big Pharm have a play book that may work faster on getting vaccines? Will the vulnerable be identified so they can be better protected? Will WHO develop means and...

Florida's biggest challenge is leadership that does not believe in science, education, history, or disease prevention.

Because when it is about the data you misinterpret and misrepresent the data you post. You ignore that hundreds of millions in this country have received multiple does of vaccines and are still alive. This kind of goes against your statements that masks and vaccines kill. Other than that you...

A random thought. Many on here are talking about vaccine efficacy. And they are talking about it in different countries. Since different countries uses different vaccines (I know there is some crossover) i have to wonder if this discussion means anything. And I have to wonder if JUC is saying...

The US official line had not been 100% correct but always well intentioned. Which means they are well ahead of JUK in both accuracy and intentions.

Is that you DJ?

In a world with free speech even the galactically stupid have a right to their opinion. Seems like Darwin is taking some time off..

I don't think anybody currently reading this particular thread is in the dark regarding masks. Some people they never work, some think only certain mask work and others think any mask is better than none. So since all of these posts about masks have been written and read maybe we could table...

Then the government would just provide lemonade to Mexico.

The reason we have had such an anti-vax and anti-mask and anti-lockdown in this country is mainly due to two things. Primary is the stand taken by political leaders such as Trump, DeSantis, and Abbot. Laws outlawing lockdown and mandates permeated many states. Florida outlawed requiring masks...

I can't believe I am doing this. But I must defend Florida to a degree. I have been very outspoken about the anti-science and anti-history actions of my state's government. There were many weeks when we led the country in cases per capita. In recent weeks our standings have gone way down...

We could be adult and require all get the vaccinations unless their is a firm medical reason they cannot receive it. We do this for schooling, the military, foreign travel, whey not for allowing everybody to live.

I had shingles several years ago. Very unpleasant experience.

Bivalent Pfizer and flu shot today.

The X is 6 years old as a model. The problems with the front suspension, the 12v battery, and the FSD seals should certainly have been fixed by now if they were priorities for Tesla. Since we are reading of these issues still my guess is Tesla has no intention of fixing them.

I was vaccinated when the vaccines first came out. I got both boosters within a week of their availability. I tested positive in Jan and believe I just had it again after my wife got it. I am assuming the two cases were variants of Omnicron since my doses were all for the original. But...

My wife just went back to work after ten days of Covid. She was pretty sick but oxygen level was above 90 and fever never went over 100. She had chills, cough, inability to keep food down for the first two days, and diarrhea. She self tested positive and then got a negative this AM before...

My bad for not noticing the date on the last post. However, in my defense it was not spam, it was a different view on the posted topic. And the thread was at the top of Off Topic section so I thought it was recent.

The military pretty much bases its policy for officers on current need. In the late 60's you get into Officer Candidate School based on Army testing with or without a degree. Every time I came up for promotion I was told I would not be selected because I had no degree but I did advance to...

As a Floridian living in Gaetz's district I can tell you I want anybody other than Gaetz. He is an embarrassment to us and to all men. And I can tell that watching our governor's actions regarding Covid and the 2020 election I can completely believe he would compromise an IG to make himself...

Read a report that we have more mass shootings so far this year than we have had days. People talk about how to keep these shooters from getting guns. Well, that is good and proper. But first lets put a lid on those preaching hate and racism. Let's foster an environment that fosters love of...

The thing about mocking dead people for bad decisions is that everyone has loved ones and friends. Chances may be slim any of them are reading this forum. But I believe if we all post with the thought of being kind it will be a better forum. As for those who die from bad decisions even when...

Reading comprehension is a lost art on some. I believe I said vaccination was not perfect but is better than anything else we have. 00, can you please share what is better. The world wants to know.

There is only one problem with current policy regarding Covid. There are many things we should do that are related to lockdowns. These include mask and proof of vaccination before entry to any public place. But these are not perfect. So what is the biggest protection we have found so far...

You think CA is run by clowns? I will be happy to give you DeSantis.

I have read that people can catch Covid more than once, that immunity acquired from the disease is not always strong enough to avoid another case, especially if it is another variant. So are the people who catch it twice included twice in the per capita rate of the community? I can see them...

My son and I had a conversation about the difference if Trump had not been elected. I would like to think it would have been different but the ability of the right to believe conspiracy theories would not have changed. Although it would have been nice to have adult leadership when the crisis hit.

Yes, vaccine mandates for school, vaccine mandates for the service were required. Why is this so different? Antibodies from the disease and from vaccines wane over time and unless the disease just disappears we may need further shots. In my ignorance of anti-vaxxers I had assumed they would...

"Not ONE of those other examples (or even all combined) are what is causing the hospitals to be overrun. Not even close. But I do think people that make poor decisions should pay higher health premiums for insurance. (Like tobacco use.)" While I agree with those sentiments in principle I don't...

I will say this. When the polls open in 22 and 24 I hope every citizen is aware of both the deaths in their state and the measures that their elected officials took or failed to take or even took against saving lives. But for the day to day living the 7 day rolling trend is useful for...

I see that, but when the discussion is about the trend then the 7 day rolling average gives a truer picture. Florida may have the 6 most total cases per capita as you say but it is 41st in the 7 day rolling average figure and that gives a better idea of the current trend. See, it is possible...

What I see is your source and mine agree on the number of cases per capita during the 7 day period, 174. That rate is currently 41st in the country. Just based on the abbreviated chart you show Florida is lowest among those listed.

Strange difference between the two. It would have to do with the source. The WP is a 7 day rolling average, that would be the difference. I am not much of a math guy but I am bigger on watching current trends than totals.

Not sure where you got your per capita figure. As of today on Washington Post site Florida is at 31st in the nation in cases per capita. https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/national/coronavirus-us-cases-deaths/?itid=hp_pandemic_gfx/&state=US

I don't trust the figures reported by my state, Florida. But then again there are too many states with governments more interested in the next elections than in reporting honest figures or, for that matter, the lives of their citizens. While discussing that I don't look at national figures...

Anecdotally we know there are people who have a fear of shots/needles. I wonder how many anti-vaxxers and anti-booster people really have a needle phobia and are cherry picking reports to justify avoiding the shots.

I tested positive today. Only had mild cough and fever for about two hours. The directions that come with the test results say to quarantine for 10 days after start of symptoms so I only have 3 days to go. Many comorbidities but two vaxes and a booster seem to have worked.

I am 73 and find I get more liberal as time goes by. Of course, I spent a lot of time in the military so liberal was about the only direction one could go.

Or said there was one case in the country or said there were 15 cases and they would be well shortly or said that it would be gone by Apr 1st. Or said there would be a Rep health care plan shortly ... for four years of his party controlling Congress. Or said his inauguration crowd was the...

For the religious who have been praying for a cure I say, "The vaccination may be the answer to your prayer."

.My understanding it that Tesla or its supplier used a rubber not rated for UV exposure. Mine began within 6 months on my 2019. Had them replace it at the two year mark under warranty. Then had my detailer reapply ceramic coat and made sure he coated the rubber strips.

Facts are facts. They are not political. Masks work. Distance works. Vaccines work. It is not our current resident of the WH that politicized this. It was/is politicians building up their campaign funds by demonizing anything said by a president not named Trump. You have the right to your...

I got a Pfizer booster 7 months after my two Moderna shots. No problems except for at the injection site but no worse than any other shot. My wife got a Moderna booster 6 months after two Moderna shots. She had a headache for two days.

I believe I have seen written here that myocarditis happens with Covid at least as often with the vaccine so the benefit for boys is still high.

It should be pointed out that much of the aid we give to developing and third world countries is intercepted by war lords and other bad actors. Greed is not unique to rich countries. Greed in other countries is misdirecting aid we do send which, understandably, makes us wary of providing aid.

A little curious here. What religion and what religious document backs religious objections to being vaccinated?

I think Abbot and DeathSantis are related ... to Trump as well as each other.

Hey, Duke. Saw you voted disagree on my post of Florida's cases per capita. Since I said nothing but facts I wonder what you disagreed with. Care to comment?