JRP3
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Got my Pfizer bivalent booster yesterday. Sore arm, had trouble sleeping, but nothing too bad.
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Does the tracking chip software get updated with this booster? Asking for a friend.........Got my Pfizer bivalent booster yesterday. Sore arm, had trouble sleeping, but nothing too bad.
No need, it’s all wireless now.Does the tracking chip software get updated with this booster? Asking for a friend.........
But it's still beta software, right? FST-beta, full self-tracking beta, as I understand.......No need, it’s all wireless now.
Interesting.The Florida Department of Health (Department) conducted an analysis through a self-controlled case series, which is a technique originally developed to evaluate vaccine safety. This studied mortality risk following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination. This analysis found there is an 84% increase in the relative incidence of cardiac-related death among males 18-39 years old within 28 days following mRNA vaccination. Individuals with preexisting cardiac conditions, such as myocarditis and pericarditis, should take particular caution when considering vaccination and discuss with their health care provider.
As such, the Florida Department of Health has issued the following guidance:
Based on currently available data, patients should be informed of the possible cardiac complications that can arise after receiving a mRNA COVID-19 vaccine. With a high level of global immunity to COVID-19, the benefit of vaccination is likely outweighed by this abnormally high risk of cardiac- related death among men in this age group.
The State Surgeon General now recommends against the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines for males ages 18-39 years old.
Individuals and health care providers should also be aware that this analysis1 found:
• Males over the age of 60 had a 10% increased risk of cardiac-related death within 28 days of
mRNA vaccination.
• Non-mRNA vaccines were not found to have these increased risks among any population.
This study cannot determine the causative nature of a participant’s death. We used death certificate data and not medical records.
So I'm automatically highly suspect of any COVID related news from Florida that casts down on any of the well known and accepted measures to reduce COVID risk, so after just a tiny bit of searching, found this great analysis of the Florida report.The Florida Department of Health (Department) conducted an analysis through a self-controlled case series, which is a technique originally developed to evaluate vaccine safety. This studied mortality risk following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination. This analysis found there is an 84% increase in the relative incidence of cardiac-related death among males 18-39 years old within 28 days following mRNA vaccination. Individuals with preexisting cardiac conditions, such as myocarditis and pericarditis, should take particular caution when considering vaccination and discuss with their health care provider.
As such, the Florida Department of Health has issued the following guidance:
Based on currently available data, patients should be informed of the possible cardiac complications that can arise after receiving a mRNA COVID-19 vaccine. With a high level of global immunity to COVID-19, the benefit of vaccination is likely outweighed by this abnormally high risk of cardiac- related death among men in this age group.
The State Surgeon General now recommends against the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines for males ages 18-39 years old.
Individuals and health care providers should also be aware that this analysis1 found:
• Males over the age of 60 had a 10% increased risk of cardiac-related death within 28 days of
mRNA vaccination.
• Non-mRNA vaccines were not found to have these increased risks among any population.
Good to know.So I'm automatically highly suspect of any COVID related news from Florida that casts down on any of the well known and accepted measures to reduce COVID risk, so after just a tiny bit of searching, found this great analysis of the Florida report.
In short, there's absolutely no reason to believe their conclusion, and IMO, they went digging into the data to find a way to get the conclusion they wanted.
Twitter:
Blog post with the Twitter thread:
A critical review of Florida’s new vaccine analysis
Florida just announced the results of an analysis that they performed, claiming the results show “an increased risk of cardiac-related death among men 18-39” for the mRNA vaccines, and …youcanknowthings.com
Thanks for sharing that exhaustive analysis.So I'm automatically highly suspect of any COVID related news from Florida that casts down on any of the well known and accepted measures to reduce COVID risk, so after just a tiny bit of searching, found this great analysis of the Florida report.
In short, there's absolutely no reason to believe their conclusion, and IMO, they went digging into the data to find a way to get the conclusion they wanted.
Twitter:
Blog post with the Twitter thread:
A critical review of Florida’s new vaccine analysis
Florida just announced the results of an analysis that they performed, claiming the results show “an increased risk of cardiac-related death among men 18-39” for the mRNA vaccines, and …youcanknowthings.com
The anonymous author(s) themselves note these significant limitations, stating that they “cannot determine the causative nature of a participant’s death” and “the underlying cause of death may not be cardiac related.”
Sorry to hear your mum had a bad experience. You didn't mention her age or health status, but one might wonder whether the higher dose of mRNA in Moderna vs. Pfizer led to her fainting spell. There could be other reasons as well, volume depleted, empty stomach, 2 mRNA varieties vs one, etc.Good to know.
Fwiw, I have two doses of Pfizer and one dose of Novavax in addition to one infection with Omicron. For me Novavax was so much less side effects, pfizer the first doses really knocked me out with a cocktail of strange symptoms.
My mum has had 4 doses of pfizer plus 1 dose of moderna plus one infection with Omicron. Moderna literally knocked her out, she fell, hit her head, couldn't get up etc. Imo she should not get more mRNA doses, it's not worth it for her to risk those sides given her pretty strong immunity by now. But she follows our governments guidelines... *sigh*
Now I recommend Novavax to my friends. Maybe it's not the best booster by some metrics, but the sides seem to be so much less that imo its cost/benefit is much more favorable to mRNA today. My own theory, the virus seems to evolve around the current immunity in the population, so maybe it's good to have one of the types of immunity combinations that are rare, so maybe that's a benefit to choose the less common vaccines.
FWIW, I found a couple other Twitter threads which point out rather obvious issues with the analysis. Again, to me it certainly looks like they specifically cherry picked data to fit a preconceived theory.So I'm automatically highly suspect of any COVID related news from Florida that casts down on any of the well known and accepted measures to reduce COVID risk, so after just a tiny bit of searching, found this great analysis of the Florida report.
In short, there's absolutely no reason to believe their conclusion, and IMO, they went digging into the data to find a way to get the conclusion they wanted.
Twitter:
Blog post with the Twitter thread:
A critical review of Florida’s new vaccine analysis
Florida just announced the results of an analysis that they performed, claiming the results show “an increased risk of cardiac-related death among men 18-39” for the mRNA vaccines, and …youcanknowthings.com
... relative incidence of all-cause mortality was lower (sometimes significantly) after COVID-19 immunizations ... And look, it's a fairly modest effect, but immediately it's weird that the Surgeon General didn't tweet "COVID-19 VACCINES MAY REDUCE YOUR RISK OF NON-COVID DEATH, ANALYSIS SHOWS" because...that seems important? ... for someone aged 18-39, getting a COVID-19 vaccination was associated with a whopping 45% (23-61%) reduction in non-cardiac death! Huge!
The Florida Surgeon General claims a recent data analysis shows an "84% increase" in cardiac death in young males after vaccination means "the benefit of vaccination is likely outweighed".
Rubbish!
That's: ~9 extra cardiac deaths ~300 covid deaths avoided
A very good deal
It's disappointing (but not amazing) that even highly educated people like Surgeons General put their political or social biases ahead of what they must know is bad "science." It's good to bear in mind that we are all susceptible to doing that, but you have to wonder what the agenda is here. More brown people than white people will die if they aren't vaccinated?FWIW, I found a couple other Twitter threads which point out rather obvious issues with the analysis. Again, to me it certainly looks like they specifically cherry picked data to fit a preconceived theory.
On this thread, another conclusion from their dataset (or another flaw with their dataset, depending on how you look at it) is:
He definitely has an agenda.But it's Florida. I did some digging to confirm what I remember hearing about that guy, Ladapo. Google for stuff like surgeon general florida anti-mask and look at what reputable news sources have reported about him on that.
Here's a flavor:
Florida Surgeon General says masks are 'not saving lives'
WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. (WPEC) — In a press conference alongside Gov. Ron DeSantis on Thursday, Florida's top doctor told attendees that masks "are not saving lives" and denounced doctors and health organizations like the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that still advocate for masking...cbs12.comFlorida surgeon general advises against kids' COVID vaccine
Florida is about to be the first state to recommend healthy children ages 5-17 not get vaccinated against COVID-19.www.axios.comFlorida will be "the first state to officially recommend against the COVID-19 vaccines for healthy children," state surgeon general declares
Dr. Joseph Ladapo made the announcement at a roundtable event that featured doctors who criticized COVID lockdowns and mandate policies.www.cbsnews.comDeSantis names doctor opposed to mask and vaccine mandates as Florida’s surgeon general
Dr Joseph Ladapo attacked concern over the pandemic as ‘Covid mania’ and said ‘there is nothing special’ about vaccineswww.theguardian.com
So I'm automatically highly suspect of any COVID related news from Florida that casts down on any of the well known and accepted measures to reduce COVID risk, so after just a tiny bit of searching, found this great analysis of the Florida report.
In short, there's absolutely no reason to believe their conclusion, and IMO, they went digging into the data to find a way to get the conclusion they wanted.
Twitter:
Blog post with the Twitter thread:
A critical review of Florida’s new vaccine analysis
Florida just announced the results of an analysis that they performed, claiming the results show “an increased risk of cardiac-related death among men 18-39” for the mRNA vaccines, and …youcanknowthings.com