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Most likely all the original cells are there. Tesla most likely only change defective BMS-cards in the modules and fixing bad connections on the cables monitoring the cells. Corrosion and bad soldering is a known problem. The pack isnt 100% air tight so moisture can get in. So minimal material...

With at least 2000 subscribers this could have been a full time job...

Looks like the developer of Teslalog has "left the building". His last visit in this forum was August 30. Errors in the logging hasnt been fixed since september. I regret spending $45 on this site, and I regret not choosing TeslaFi. At TeslaFI you can download all your raw data. At TeslaLog you...

No charging logs the last three days ... :(

Looks like I have to bite the dust also and say goodbye to good old 6.2 .... need the maps... sad day. My chrismas wish is a classic instrumet cluster "skin" for us with classic cars.... I'm old but I usually remembers what color my car has so the "toy car" in the middle isnt much use...

Here is "proof" of the second car affecting charging power of the first. Blue is Charging power in kW, red is SOC reported by car.. Second car connects at 5 minutes, after 13 minutes the SOC is so high that it dosent matter. minimal total effect, maybe one minute extra charging...

Are you looking at mi/h ( km/t) or kWh /A and V ?

Remember this display ? Missing being able to check the speed and battery in one glance ? How about being able to switch between this "classic" display and the "modern" 7.1 display on pre AP cars in the config screen? Shouldnt be TOO much work for the SW-team should it ?

Choose the stall next to the car that has the slowest blinking green light at the charge port. (If people are sitting in the cars that is...) On rare occations the first on a shared charger CAN get a small reduction in power. That happens when the first is charging at full power. (110kW+)...

The easiest way to satisfy us "classical owners" would be to give us a config choice between "New" and "classical" instrument cluster. They have the code for both and the parameters show are mostly the same. This is a simple and manageable demand for an overworked SW-team. The;17" is...

Is there a difference in the size of the bricking protection when using Range Mode ? When you switch it on and off it looks like you gain almost 1 kWh....

Are you saying ; Charge to 95%+ and leave the car at that SOC, without driving for a couple of days ?

My kids plays music though BT every day from their iPhones without problems. Very stable version.

Can any one explained this ? ( I dont require the answer to be verified by peer review ) The picture shows the "Energy/Trip" -line on the GUI. I switched Range Mode on and off. It looks like I gain some extra capacity in Range Mode... ie it jumps between different percentages instead of...

Here are my notes from the UI on a 0-100 supercharge. Cell voltage and Amp calculate by dividing by 96 and 74

Fair enough. .. But you should have left wk057 's comment about why he had left his own thread.... And why not remove Quantum's comments that are clearly pure trolling ?

Interesting ! Here are a recent survey among the norwegian owners. Only one data point pr car. The apparent large differences can probably be explained by inaccurate readings, bad BMS estimates AND (not mentioned in this thread (?)) unbalanced cells. As I understand BMS estimate errors doesnt...

I have a feeling that my current SW (6.2) is the final/optimal version for my pre-AP car....

Thanks for a very interesting breakdown of "battery internals" wk057! It makes it easier to understand how the battery and range calculations works. I did a 0-100% charge at a supercharger and recorded the V and A during the charge. (The battery had been driven ~20 k km at that time) At...

MY tinfoil hat says that it was smart to introduce the AWD on the S since it share the same platform.. When I ordered my car in sep 13 I anticipated some kind of teething problems from a fresh company.

How about considering that the AWD was planned long before any DU noises appeared ? ...or two motors, twice the risk of failure ? While contemplating any further conspiracy theories you can listen to my RWD DU before I got it replaced DU noise- Tesla Model S 85 - 16 500 km later - YouTube

No Spotify for any cars in US...

Curious. . What is the advantage of moving the battery and gear from the centre ?

The car finally stopped nagging me about downgrading from 6.2 to 7.0. Got me a new DU recently so hopefully I will stay away from any Service Senters for a long time

The 6.2 version even tell you if the car is in Range Mode or not. Custom Auto if Range Mode is off, Custom ECO if Range Mode is on. Lot of subtle info lost. ....

There is a treshold of deceleration, as simple as that.

I was thinking about this yesterday. It is anoying because it takes an extra eye movement to check speed and range . In 6.2 you do it with one glance. With temp and time back this is the major gripe. .. not much, but since the benefits of upgrading the pre AP cars are microscopic I will delay...

It is in the calendar. Would have been nice at the trip counter page though. ..for "statistical" snapshots

Are you kidding ? If that was essential we would have gotten it years ago. Boring stuff. ... ;)

Energy app lost the lines

2.7.77 on a "classic"

So do I. But I still use the range and "since last charge" to keep track. Since we havent got waypoints yet maybe trip is a better word than journey ??

I will treasure it And since the roll out of 7.0 here in Norway is delayed the service center will not be able to install it

You can borrow my recording, getting it replaced tomorrow https://youtu.be/MnUc_fkjTxA

I agree ! The most important issue is to get the "static" information on the IC back. That means leave it as it is in 6.2 ; battery range back in the middle and the lower statusline as it is.

From what I have seen from pictures I agree. As I read this thread I realize that there are two "camps here. Those who want as much functionallity and relevant information as possible, but dont care so much about looks as long as the information is readable. Then there are those that...

You like the design, but not the functionality of the driver display?

You are not alone :D :D -Stealth mode ?? Not :D DU noise- Tesla Model S 85 - 16 500 km later - YouTube DU noise- Tesla Model S 85 - 16 500 km later - YouTube

Totally agree ! I would like to see the arguments for why the changes to the UI gives Me a better user experience . If it is not broken, dont fix it !

The "holy grail" seems to be simplification these days...

I have no trouble with new versions, but they must give me some added value. Why not start with the UI we got and analyze what is wrong with it as it is ? From a non AP view. Change for changes sake isnt always for the better...

This is the end of the line... A reality check : Tesla is a forward moving company. Tesla thrieves on earthmoving innovations. Tesla has limited resources I realize now that we with "classic" cars is not the main focus for Tesla anymore.. I have been waiting patiently since 5.8 for a usable...

Since pre-AP cars keeps the round speedometer with energymeter what we need is only to keep the lower "statusbar" with temp /date/time. They put the battery on the left side and the Odometer in the middle... not optimal but probably to keep the placing of the battery similar to AP cars...

One more thing missing. .. No desimal on the kWh display on the "since last charge "-display . Good that the energy meter is kept in the center though but I'll delay the upgrade anyway

Constantly learning. . Yess ! Then maybe it will learn where all my DAB-stations are , I sure cant fond them. .. Maybe it will learn that waypoints and alternative routes are invented. ...

What if "all" pre-AP cars delayed updating ? Wouldnt that be a nice, collective way of showing our opinion about the new SW ?

Tesla goes to lenghts to give us Insane and Ludicrous modes. Why cant they give us "Nerd Mode" on the screens ? ?

Elon said in Denmark this week that the highway self driving will be here in a month....

The worst is that you need to use 1/3 of the screen to get the time. .

Thr main issue here is that it seems that all cars get the same GUI. As time goes by the features of new cars will dictate how the IC will appear. At one point older cars will get reduced functionallity by upgrading the GUI. A more configurable GUI will solve this. A choice to turn the...