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Bullish? Tesla Model 3s hit Europe, but their Autopilot feature is disabled

Then he will end in jail very soon...

Profit over time....

FACT? Draw the same picture exluding GM finance it will look quite different and be an real comparson. An interesting one could be debt vs produced cars or e mm ployee stock option per sold car. I understand that are type of REAL comparisons are not of interest in this ecco chamber.

You must live in quite a neighborhood! Not a common accusation were I live.

Kruger guy it has now been confirmed that one of the two actually were instrumental to the resque, and no it was not Elon...

No position so I'm fine thank you!

Prepare to be angyer if the shorts come out on top....

Musk have extremely flexible and loyal followers, that is for sure!

734 inventory cars in Norway! Tesla Inventory List - Find your next car The demand story is craking...

I don't think others needs to twist his words he seems very capable doing that himselfe (from the NYT article): "Mr. Musk said in the interview that board members had not complained to him about his tweet. “I don’t recall getting any communications from the board at all,” he said. “I definitely...

He did not only say funding secure (with an spesific price) but also: Investor support is confirmed. Only reason why this is not certain is that it’s contingent on a shareholder vote. There seems to be a bit more work than there wote before Tesla is private. If this is not stretching the truth...

But every Porsche also have a big dial (the biggest…) in center view with a red marking indicating the area not rev into.... By the way they also have installed a rev limiter that limits the engine to go dangerously into the red field if the owner ignores the red marking that saves you from...

Flat How do you explan the measurements for the 60 pack? A special variant of the cell that increase capacity after storage?

You need a peer review of your stated facts... I do not think any that know the issue will do... So you are back to pure speculation.

Of course way of doing that but thanks for emphasize my point of Auzie and others that do not share anything can discredit the work of WK and others can do this without ever revealing or in the danger of others to reveal the “backdrop” for their position in the subject discussed in these astrix...

She is asking for peer review of info from from WK one the most transparent trustworthy members of this whole forum one of the few actually that contribute with facts and data not more just his opinion like the rest of us. I so far have not seen any facts presented from Auzi I have only seeing a...

Auzie How large part is TSLA of your stock portifolio?

Have yet to see a picture of model x production veicle (it was however the case on the 2012 protypes (that also had folding second row...))) demonstrating better access to the third row than the new XC90 with normal doors.

Thanks for the data lol. Interesting to see that Teslas "defintion" of 0-100 kph is actually 10-100kph...

I have the answer to this, MT have tested the car that TM have rated at 780 hp without the battery but using the same external power source connected with a quarter mile long extention cord.... :cool:

lol and c You don't have the nessesary education to explain simple facts in a complicated confusing way... :smile:

Strange that Tesla that sem so eager to comply with the 85R have not used those numbers in their marketing... The one hour number by the way the number used in the vehicle registration papers.

Again Tesla has NO certificate based on government standard that shows 700 hp. We both know and acknowledge that so why bring that point in again and again! The Nissan case was addressing what are reasonable drivetrain losses.

Since all trace of combing the numbers are removed from all Tesla pages it may be seen as a indication that tesla no logger are sure that adding the numbers are ok.... Here's a link with the EU certificates that by the way have been argued as the basis for using inflated numbers ALSO in the US...

I would get a perfect undstanding of what to expect of the performance the car with 3 simple broadly used and understod facts: 0-100 time (no roll out noncence) , the availible HP in the weicle (yes the battery limited) and a max torc level (with a specfied rpm). If i don't remember wrongly...

Yep it will.

But tesla and you still not have a external sertification of a COMBINED number summing up to 700 ish. The actual EU sertificates that Tesla provided as evidence have been posted here.

I can not see the 700 ish number anyplace in spec snip you provided. I can not see it in the sertificates Tesla provided in the norwegian HP gate case...But if you can find an official sertificate stating 700 hp please post it! - - -

vgrinshpun please show us the 700 hp sertificate.... I will think Tesla is VERY interested in getting a copy cince they do not have one themselves.. .

Google translate is your friend! Consumer Ombudsman (forbrukerombudet) not resolve disputes between consumers and businesses.

The forbrukerobudet is not the same as forbrukerrådet! Here you can find all you want to know first hand... About forbrukerrådet: Om oss : ForbrukerrÃ¥det Vedtekter for ForbrukerrÃ¥det : ForbrukerrÃ¥det ForbrukerrÃ¥dets frivillige meklingstilbud : ForbrukerrÃ¥det About forbrukerombudet...

I would get a perfect undstanding of what to expect of the performance the car with 3 simple broadly used and understod facts: 0-100 time (no roll out noncence) , the availible HP in the weicle (yes the battery limited) and a max torc level (with a specfied rpm). if i don't remember wrongly...

I don't and that was exactly my point... Ford have not yet given much data on acceleration time at all.... Maby they do not have to misslead their european costomers to sell the car?

Maybe take a look at the brocure...

Interesting reply on what I actually was writing... What was my confident speculation here??

It is interesting to see how Tesla argue their case with "evidence" that the 0-100 time is not 0-100... Ommitting at the same time that it is not until several months later they actually inform the buyers that it is not actuall 0-100 but 5/6-100 ie with rollout a consept that is unheard of in...

Read WK57 blow out at least 10 times! It's deleted by him but quoted a couple of posts later. Linked it for you, since you have trouble searcing... Replace EE with Krug when you read it... Stop the Press! Tesla announces REAL HP numbers for P85D and P90L - Page 166

A more relevant metric will be the percentage of owners affected of the case... 25% and counting of P85D owners in Norway, do not know the numers inwolved in denmark. I really do not know how the 9500 or so owners of cars not affected of the HP issue of P85D should be a part of this legal...

What knowledge do you have on what I or other P85D owners did or did not before we ordered.?? Wk57 had a blow out on this a couple of pages ago, please read it...

I think approx 8000 (of them 631 of the P85D) in Norway, a couple of hundred in Sweden, don't know the numbers in Denmark but ny guestimate is between 1100 today and probably close to 2000 by year end due to the end/change of EV incentives in Denmark next Year.

Strangely they sold cars in the EU for a long period with info on the battery limited HP before the P85D. Go figure....

Strangely enough they dont have to go that route any longer... It is a mystery!

Here you have the process in Norway explained: The actual meetings in the first step in the consumer counsil are not open but Tesla will give a written statement on their position that will be sent to all the involved complaintants that then will be asked for coments/more information if...

I can guarantee you that the information on this issue is much easier to find on this forum than to it was to find information on the missing HP on Tesla’s site at the P85D launch... The information I'm referring to are actually here (I’m still unsure if Mrs. Ausie actually was interested in...

The process has already been described (probably several times (not by "crazystop" and the sources he refer)) in this and other threads on the subject so if you or others really are interested I think you will find relevant information on it.

You obviously do not know much of this process in Norway.

You are right 631 P85D sold until end of october. - - - Updated - - - That was not what I said ether.... - - - Updated - - - Cannuck wile your at it...

We will find out after the first court rouling if it compares in beeing legal or not... It will take some time before we know but consumer law and laws on truth in advertising and the responsibility on the professional part (in this case Tesla) are quite strict in Norway. And Norway with its...

A pity that you did. I think your original post summed up many long term Tesla supporters view.