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I opened that discussion in the more appropriate thread for General discussion of the Tesla company. Please direct follow ups there.
Fact Checking
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According to VolumeBot shorting is above 50% again:
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Shorts are probably emboldened by peak FUD.
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Shorts are probably emboldened by peak FUD.
Not sure why Elon had to give that interview to create more FUD. SP down 2,5% in relative high pre-market volume.
I like the way he shared his feelings, pain, stress and emotions, he is the same human like us all. Although way clever and smart than us, still have tough time and weakness. Lesson learned, though I loss some part of my investment, I appreicate his effort and willingness to make Tesla and M3 happens. Time will tell.
I agree, they are going to twist his words no matter what.
I would have written an statement instead
The market Is already priced in “there is no fund secured”. How far it will push SP down from this point? I just hope it should turn around now ...
Dan Detweiler
Active Member
More evidence that this company most definitely needs to be private. Let them focus on what they're good at. Stop worrying about quarter to quarter numbers and just be Tesla. Everyone will be happier (except the day traders and shorts) and the company will bypass the hurdles the public market continues to throw in their way. They are confident they don't need the funds the public market offers so why stay? There is no up side to remaining public.
Dan
Yes but he should go vent at a psychologist rather than a media outlet. And when you are the head of such a controversial company, you should sound fully confident when talking to the media at all times. This is not helping his case.
I don't think others needs to twist his words he seems very capable doing that himselfe (from the NYT article):
"Mr. Musk said in the interview that board members had not complained to him about his tweet. “I don’t recall getting any communications from the board at all,” he said. “I definitely did not get calls from irate directors.”
But shortly after the Times published its interview with Mr. Musk, he added through a Tesla spokeswoman that Antonio Gracias, Tesla’s lead independent director, had indeed contacted him to discuss the Aug. 7 Twitter post, and that he had agreed not to tweet again about the possible privatization deal unless he had discussed it with the board."
Johann Koeber
Happy Owner
Dan Detweiler
Active Member
Look, nothing the man does or says at this point is going to "help his case" in the eyes of those that have no desire for any semblance of truth...just ammunition. The shorts/day traders/analysts crowd have proven time and time again that their only interest is seeing this company brought down for their own gain. Frankly, I am amazed that the man has been able to accomplish what he has. This is just all feeding the case for privatization. Let the man run his companies devoid of all the trash talking and bs. The sooner this company goes private the healthier Elon will be and thus by proxy, the healthier Tesla will be.
Dan
You will answer that to yourself, if you:
1. judge the #shares shorted
2. judge their current and possible future losses
3. judge what influence could be bought for similar amount of money
If shorts face billions of losses they might be inclined to spend hundreds of millions on various 'influences'.
The result would still end being 'less bad' than if Tesla won.
Does anyone really expect all those billions of $ will not fight in all possible ways, legal and illegal, to survive?
Don't waste your time clicking disagree, I've seen enough corruption to expect nothing less than full illegal activities, bribery, sabotage, etc...
We hear what hits the media, don't think the shenanigans stop there, it is only the tip of the iceberg, the real fight to tank Tesla is happening behind the scenes, in multitudes of ways.
One important area for me to look at when assessing someones Management skills is the consistency of that person in his actions, communication and decisions over time.
Elon is since decades exactly the same consistent person with all highs and lows and did not deviate from his behavior against all odds. Would I see him blink, changes mind, questions himself more often or pulls back from previous decisions I would be concerned but I am not at all.
What I experience here is someone who does exactly what he said years ago or last week which is more a true skill than a behavior and pretty rare in the business and political world.
His NYT interview beside the fact that I read more about "a personal familiar with that matter said ...." mostly contradicting about what Elon said, than about the person interviewed is a clear continuation and testimony about what he said in almost all interviews before. I applaud that.
The fact that he did not consult anybody about his tweet to go private is a good thing. He did show once again that he cares about small shareholder and transparency.
HG Wells
Martian Embassy
HEADLINE: Shortsville Times
Elon headed to JAIL. TEXTS while driving, sleeps with other women. What other crimes is he hiding?.
If he hasn't done the interview we will not be talking about that statement and I really don't care by the way.
Fact Checking
Well-Known Member
Yeah, it was 80% probable that even if he gave the NYT an exclusive interview they'd backstab him: lots of vile Tesla articles from them lately, with likely NYT editorial board backing.
He should have given Wired an interview instead.
Hopefully Elon will eventually learn to not trust journalists ...
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