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At least according to out google doc file, no 70D has been delivered yet.Hello from Germany,
I've ordered a 70D last week and now I've seen in a video on YouTube that the 60 is charging much slower than the 85 on a supercharger.
Has anybody charged a 70D demo car yet?
Stefan
would be interested in this too. The other side of the argument is however that some 60kwh model drivers have actually reported charge rates of 135kwh which just tapers off a wee bit earlier than for the 85kwh...
I'm going to try to arrange to borrow a 70D for a day or so when my car goes in in a few weeks. I want to add it to my Charge Speed Chart Video. Right now, I have the 60 and 85 showing charging speeds from 10 to 80% on 80 amp HPWC, CHAdeMO, and Supercharger, I want to add the 70's charge speed to the list.
If you do, take a pic of the battery version label. I don't think we've seen one yet.
For that matter, if anyone is over at a showroom or service center and sees a 70D, snap a quick photo up under the front passenger wheel well, behind the rear side of the wheel.
Hello from Germany,
I've ordered a 70D last week and now I've seen in a video on YouTube that the 60 is charging much slower than the 85 on a supercharger.
Has anybody charged a 70D demo car yet?
Stefan
Maybe "potential issue" or "concern" is a better way to put it as we don't seem to know anything yet. But the very lack of information at this point is what makes me most anxious:
- there is NO positioning of charge times vs. other models anywhere, at all, from Tesla Motors.
- there is no report that I am aware of here on this forum of anyone having any free time in a 70D.
- there are no pictures of the battery pack -- but then again, the 70D units at the Tesla stores were probably built a while back and things may have changed.
- there are some reviews of the 70D that make it sound like the reviewers were left alone with the car, but again, ZERO talk about charge times, etc.
As one of the first batch of 70D purchasers, I would feel sleighed if this model doesn't at least have the same charging fortitude as the 85D. If there are any substantial differences, they should be made very clear eg. on the Design Studio site, like they were back in the 60 days.
I took delivery of my 70D today and meandered up I35 into Oklahoma and ended up at the Ardmore Supercharging station. My main purpose was to just make sure SC was turned on and good for an upcoming trip I'm going to take in the car. So I almost nearly forgot to photo the charging screens! lol
I'm not an expert or 100% sure of what I was looking at the few times I glanced at the charging screen, but it definitely looked to be taking in S60 pack style voltage, but the charge was very fast. My apologies that I did not think to take pics at the very middle and end of charge, but I saw mine hovering around 325-331 volts the first couple minutes before building up to about 345-350 and then volts seemed to slowly come back down a bit as it approached the end of charging. As far as I can tell it never got anywhere near the 400v that 85khw packs get, but I did not watch the whole time. Also, I was not charging from a low battery pack, as I still had about 101 miles on the range when I plugged in.
I'd say I was there for no more than 50 minutes, and not all of that charging. I wasn't watching the charge closely because I ended up talking with another Tesla owner who came over to chat about the 70D, and I did not yet have my Tesla app set up to notify me when charge is complete. Yeah, I'm a charging newb. A very, very happy ecstatic charging newb. On his Model S gotcha-day.
Anyway, here are a couple photos of what did manage to remember to take shortly after I plugged in. Hope this helps those who have been wanting to know. I personally am not disappointed in the charging speed and convenience, at all, and I do not begrudge 85s if their packs do it faster. Of course I am a former Volt owner who had no DC quick-charge capability at all, so it's amazing to me I got 140 miles of range in the time it took to play with the radio and talk to another EV owner! lol
Oh yeah, PS -- I frickin' love this car!
the amps decline as you fill up. You were pulling 252 amps midway thru
nice iWatch...
So it is confirmed. They just made the 60kwh pack larger so hence the lack of power and same voltage. So in my opinion if you have a 70d, you will max out at 105kw charging limited by the amps you can put in. It will take longer to taper down compared to the 60kwh so you will have faster charging but not as fast as the 85kwh