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    My guess:

    Less weight = less rolling resistance which is still a factor at no matter what speed you are driving.

    Quote Originally Posted by ckessel View Post
    Sort of baffled why the highway rate is better with the 60. The wind resistance doesn't change. I'd have thought the extra weight was more of a factor in stop-n-go.
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    Great news on the range and even better news that this should confirm that there are no barriers to starting production in January as promised.
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    My 85 kWhr battery is doing >310 miles rated ideal range - which I believe is going by the EPA #'s (It started at 270mi showing I think, but that was from the factory and they said they did a full charge - now it is higher )



    The 60 might be enough that I could get to a supercharger, cool
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    Hmmm this makes the 60kwh pretty appealing to me, while I never though I would spend 25k or more on a car, it will make me feel better that I am getting one that is 80k and not 90k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bardlebee View Post
    Hmmm this makes the 60kwh pretty appealing to me, while I never though I would spend 25k or more on a car, it will make me feel better that I am getting one that is 80k and not 90k.
    The 60 kWh model is $70k, though obviously you could easily get it up to 80k with options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bardlebee View Post
    Hmmm this makes the 60kwh pretty appealing to me, while I never though I would spend 25k or more on a car, it will make me feel better that I am getting one that is 80k and not 90k.
    Whatever the price, and whatever battery and combo you get, I think the car is totally worth it!
    but to each there own, I just love seeing almost everyone smile!
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    Has the Tesla site been updated with this? I don't see any changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iridium View Post
    Has the Tesla site been updated with this? I don't see any changes.
    Tesla has continued to quote the 300/230/160 mile range at 55-mph constant speed even after the 85 pack got the 265 mile EPA 5-cycle rating: Model S Options Pricing | Tesla Motors and the recent Your Questions Answered | Tesla Motors

    The only mention of the 265 miles back then was in Elon/JB's blog post: Model S Efficiency and Range | Blog | Tesla Motors

    So, there may be a blog post about the 60 kWh 208 mile rating but, not sure.
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    This bodes well for the 40kw too. I suspect the power limiting of the smaller packs is helping extend range. Since the EPA 5 cycle test has a more aggressive driving profile, the slower acceleration may help a little. Until full specs are provided, hopefully the smaller packs are also lighter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gg_wants_a_tesla View Post
    Tesla has continued to quote the 300/230/160 mile range at 55-mph constant speed even after the 85 pack got the 265 mile EPA 5-cycle rating: Model S Options Pricing | Tesla Motors and the recent Your Questions Answered | Tesla Motors

    The only mention of the 265 miles back then was in Elon/JB's blog post: Model S Efficiency and Range | Blog | Tesla Motors

    So, there may be a blog post about the 60 kWh 208 mile rating but, not sure.
    IMO, Tesla needs to stick with the EPA numbers. While most of us here on the TMC can understand the delta between the EPA numbers and Tesla's 55mph range, the average consumer may not. Just don't want to see Tesla get involved in a large class-action suits over misguided range estimates.
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    Anyone know the weight difference between the 85 and 60? It must be significant given the gain in efficiency.

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