Telerobotics has been around for decades. Twenty years ago, doctors performed remote surgery on a human patient from thousands of miles away. Tesla’s breakthrough is a scalable, AI enabled, mass produced, generalized platform.
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Telerobotics has been around for decades. Twenty years ago, doctors performed remote surgery on a human patient from thousands of miles away. Tesla’s breakthrough is a scalable, AI enabled, mass produced, generalized platform.
2daMoon
Mostly Harmless
Perhaps Tesla could treat X.ai like they do Dalhousie University and Jeff Dahn. By funding the project they would get first rights to the technology being produced.
2daMoon
Mostly Harmless
Add to this how the "remote control" aspect for Optimus is merely part of the learning phase, where the robot is shown the human activity via touch, movement, and vision, then, can interpret how to do that activity on it's own.
There would be little gained by having to have an operator for each robot all the time. As pointed out, there are already robots that do that and applications for the Tesla Bot isn't targeting use for highly specialized tasks, such as surgery.
Boring, repetitive, dangerous, are the job qualities the army of Optimi will target.
2daMoon
Mostly Harmless
I agree with this sentiment and these milestones. The prior package was crafted as a “Here are some truly stupendously difficult, way-out-there goals to reach. If Tesla and TSLA achieve them, you will receive a stupendous, way-out-there bonus.” Your list is likewise appropriately SDWOT
I do not in any fashion condone a perceived attitude of “Give me more or else.” Mr Musk has a history of being not careful but careless in his remarks; I am holding off on passing judgment as to the nearness of that perception to reality.
As far as separate share classes go: for my entire life - beginning with Ford Motor pioneering this when even I was young - I have vocally argued that they are inimical to a properly functioning capital market; the power distortion they create makes a mockery of the investment world. Only very, very rarely have I ever purchased shares in any US company that had different voting rights amongst share classes, or kept them if a company created such.
My own version of @MC3OZ‘s proposal likely would have a different market cap milestone; instead of Apple + Aramco, I think the appropriate package, also focusing on AI and petroleum, might better be MSFT + NVDA + Aramco.
I also would need to have included a way such that this time, Mr Musk cannot go back on his word, and sell shares other than to pay for the windfall tax burden. Having said to my face (“our” faces, as this was the Jan 4 2017 investor meeting at Sparks) that we had nothing to worry about, he would be the last to sell any shares as he needed them for one purpose only, which was the Mars program, I will not be lied to again. He either is tied to keep the shares, or I cannot vote for or recommend that any vote for any further package.
I can’t help think of the sheriff in “Blazing Saddles”
…What shareholder is most damaged…. Bend to my influence or I will prove I have most to lose.
Seems it was about this time of year, every few years, when a long teased move happens.
Why would he not divest more TSLA shares to more firmly establish privately held Xai and then dangle Xai shares to tease top talent to follow him.
Seems increasingly likely his presence in the public corporate space is going to get smaller over time but perhaps others see a different pattern.
I think the board will move fast and offer Musk another massive, incentive laden package. 1% of the company at every multiple of $2T market cap sounds good.
Despite all his drama, he’s worth it
Despite all his drama, he’s worth it
2daMoon
Mostly Harmless
What if he felt that the pit of poisonous vipers he spent that money on eradicating actually threatened the long-term success of Tesla and the myriad parts of the Mars Project and doing so was crucial to achieving the goals?
So far he has been almost prescient in his ability to steer his fleet of projects through troubled waters in a magnificent fashion, often counter to the judgement of many of us mere Muggles.
I'm all for holding the reins on that horse loosely, rather than tightly.
Weak China numbers across the board
Nio: -6%
Xpeng: -9%
Li: -6.5%
Fisker: -10%
Polestar: -4%
Rivian: -4%
Lucid: -4%
General EV weakness today, not even sure if Elon's tweet did anything to Tesla stocks
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Nio: -6%
Xpeng: -9%
Li: -6.5%
Fisker: -10%
Polestar: -4%
Rivian: -4%
Lucid: -4%
General EV weakness today, not even sure if Elon's tweet did anything to Tesla stocks
China EV insurance registrations for week ending Jan 14: Nio 1,700, Xpeng 1,400, Li Auto 6,800, Tesla 7,400
In the January 1-14 period, Nio was 4,700, Xpeng 2,800, Li Auto 11,000 and Tesla 10,600 units.
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At the time, I thought it was an incredibly stupid and totally unnecessary promise to make. I think it was an impulsive, off-the-cuff statement. Given that he first invested in Tesla in 2005, I never held selling stock against him.
That said, you can’t give someone stock compensation with the stipulation that they never sell. No one will ever agree to that. The best the board could probably do is a 5 year hold.
Good morning, I grabbed 25 more shares, then thought about why.
This could be a snare setup for shorts. I'm good with this.
It could also be that Elon feels pressure to stop lowering prices further at the peril of short-term profits in order to hit extreme volume (as just an example of short-term thinking). Could be the combined pressure from unions, staff, countries, gov't.
I'm good with this too.
This could be a snare setup for shorts. I'm good with this.
It could also be that Elon feels pressure to stop lowering prices further at the peril of short-term profits in order to hit extreme volume (as just an example of short-term thinking). Could be the combined pressure from unions, staff, countries, gov't.
I'm good with this too. 
MartinAustin
Active Member
OK what is fixing the stock problem today? 
Maybe it was the hit job Cramer just tried to pull off
Maybe it was the hit job Cramer just tried to pull off
Krugerrand
Meow
Not a threat. Next you’ll be telling us he promised to develop state robots of the art AI/robotics elsewhere.
cliff harris
Member
Perhaps the media finds it impossible to write negative spin about any future musk pay without somehow accidentally pointing out how insane the requirements THAT HE MET were for the last one? 
Krugerrand
Meow
Right!? Nothing to see here.
I’m looking forward to seeing what your robotics company is doing.
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