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Yes, that use was effective.I thought @APotatoGod used it purposefully and cleverly there.
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Yes, that use was effective.I thought @APotatoGod used it purposefully and cleverly there.
Not reproducible. In the post, i reported the car riding the center line on a straightaway. Yesterday, same road, same spot, it stayed in the lane perfectly.Can we get this on video with multiple cars doing this at the same location? How reproducible is this?
I've seen similar articles as well. If Tesla decides to turn right instead of taking Chuck's complex UPL turn I'd be fine with that. That type of intersection is certainly one of the most difficult so just go up the street .2 miles and use the traffic light and turn left. (this option was presented by a driver who lives in the area)Why UPS Trucks Don't Turn Left - Priceonomics
UPS engineers map out routes for their drivers consisting of "a series of right-hand loops"priceonomics.com
Yes, we have been through this a number of times. I almost always turn right if I can't quickly turn left (generally one traffic signal of the nearest signal). Otherwise someone at the back is going to start honking.I've seen similar articles as well. If Tesla decides to turn right instead of taking Chuck's complex UPL turn I'd be fine with that. That type of intersection is certainly one of the most difficult so just go up the street .2 miles and use the traffic light and turn left. (this option was presented by a driver who lives in the area)
A large part of the unsatisfied people seem to gravitate towards this style of driving.We build a world of laws because it better than than a world of brutes and emotional manifestations of frustration, possession or egotism…
If we define the real world requirements of replacing vehicle operation for transportation very carefully we may find ourselves with unexpected solutions
A right turn followed by a u-turn is best for safety.I've seen similar articles as well. If Tesla decides to turn right instead of taking Chuck's complex UPL turn I'd be fine with that. That type of intersection is certainly one of the most difficult so just go up the street .2 miles and use the traffic light and turn left. (this option was presented by a driver who lives in the area)
A right turn followed by a u-turn is best for safety.
In NJ this variant is called a jug handle type B turn.
Waymo data from Phoenix showed a very different distribution from human drivers. In 6 million miles only 30 of least severe category (real and counterfactual simulation) and 8 with airbag deployment. Also note that there were zero collisions that did not involve another human.Which evidence? The VTTI study seems to show that accident rates decrease roughly in proportion for all severity levels (for autonomous car vs human), at least for levels 1 - 3 in one of their charts. This seems to imply that e.g. halving the minor collision rate (through software/hardware advancement) would be likely to roughly halve the severe collision rates as well. Not in a direct causal sense of course, but because improving the overall software/hardware would tend to reduce mistakes at all levels of severity, and because such improvements tend to not be specifically targeted at narrow accident types (e.g. reducing curb strikes). (Some may be, but it's the exception.)
If it reduces accidents it is worth it at a fleet level.I don't think there's anything profound, technically impressive, or otherwise appealing about substituting a left turn with 3 right turns.
Even given the small numbers, you see decreasing numbers with severity.Waymo data from Phoenix showed a very different distribution from human drivers. In 6 million miles only 30 of least severe category (real and counterfactual simulation) and 8 with airbag deployment. Also note that there were zero collisions that did not involve another human.
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Just googled U-turns in Ohio and this statement is not accurate. There are lots of conditions in Ohio where U-turns are legal.U-turns are illegal in Ohio, so I guess you would turn right and drive to Indiana?
U-turns are illegal in Ohio, so I guess you would turn right and drive to Indiana?
to be fair, parking lots are not roads, are poorly mapped, are often poorly marked and confusing anyway, and to my knowledge aren’t officially part of the designed domain for FSD. Add multiple layers of a parking ramp and it gets even worse.It does a terrible job in busy parking lots.
In a parking garage, Navigation thought it was driving on the street outside the garage. I don't know what it would have done if I had enabled FSD, because it seemed like a bad idea to try it. This was exiting after an event, so traffic was bumper-to-bumper going down the ramps with no room for error.
On a 6-lane UPL, it waited so long to cross the near lanes, and moved so slowly, that it had to stop in the middle of them because before it reached the far lanes, traffic was approaching from the right.
Why would it need to go 15% above the limit at all times?
Just googled U-turns in Ohio and this statement is not accurate.
Making a U-turn is not illegal in Ohio. However...
Worst time to go grocery shopping: 10 AM on weekdays. That’s when all the octogenarians are tottering down the middle of the aisles!LOL… You seem to have some bad eggs in your neighborhood grocery store!
FSD is simply following the rules, cautiously, as it should. Not sure why people are mad about it.
This is something Tesla will need to address eventually. Say they get the system with 1 accident every 10 million miles as long as the cameras are calibrated but the reliability drops to 1 accident every 1000 miles if they're not calibrated. People won't know and won't care if the issue was camera calibration. In the end, it's all part of the same system that they expect to work. Just like FSD needing to recognize when the weather is too poor for it to work reliably, it also needs some means of determining when the camera calibration is interfering with function.Yep, sure enough recalibrating the cameras made a world of difference. It feels like a completely different system and is now very usable. It did take a VERY long time for the recalibration for the FSD, probably over 100kms of highway driving.
Why so? The person behind you should see you can't safely make the turn. Why would they honk and try to force you to drive beyond your ability or safety limits? On the other hand, ignore them and drive within your safe abilities. It's only in the movies that the impatient driver behind you will get out of their car with sledge hammer.Yes, we have been through this a number of times. I almost always turn right if I can't quickly turn left (generally one traffic signal of the nearest signal). Otherwise someone at the back is going to start honking.
Is there any known way to test calibration? I'd love to know if and how much my cameras are off before recalibrating them, and then to be able to measure again after.Just like FSD needing to recognize when the weather is too poor for it to work reliably, it also needs some means of determining when the camera calibration is interfering with function.
Calibration and/or dirt or built-up haze, which is my hobby horse based on experience.it also needs some means of determining when the camera calibration is interfering with function