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  1. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    I sold my software on those 8" floppies. To program in FORTRAN at Hollywood High in 1975, you hand-bubbled (the same Hollerith codes punched by a keypunch machine) on cards with a pencil. The decks got submitted to downtown L.A., and 2-3 days later you got the results back. It took 1-2 cycles to...
  2. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    It's worse than that because there are head-scratching regressions and new failure cases.
  3. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    That was Nikola.
  4. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Wow, this post brings back memories. But I'm actually working with those for a talk, so I'll resist. Except to boast I scored an 8K RAM card or something (which was serious in those days) from Processor Technology for writing an 8080 machine language version of Conways's Game of Life that ran on...
  5. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Whatever is sent to the terminal to print would simply also get punched onto the paper tape when the punch was turned on. When you fed tape to the reader, it was as if you were typing that same information on the keyboard.
  6. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    How can I forget that? The first true genius hack I ever saw perpetrated involved one of them: at Hollywood High circa 1973, we had two ASR-33's and they were in use between two classrooms. Each room had two phone jacks, so both terminals could be in either room. When the teacher logged into the...
  7. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    I had one of those teletypes in m college dorm room, 1977, connected to my IMSAI 8080. Loud, heavy, and about the most rock-solid, reliable piece of mechanical equipment ever designed!
  8. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    In geometry, but not in OOP! In a language such as C++, "A Square 'is-a' Rectangle" fails the substitution principle (Liskov).
  9. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    If it's 300 baud, then you have to have it connected to an acoustic coupler to complete the period piece. [EDIT: Oh wait, maybe that was 110 baud. Yeah, I may have used a coupler with 300, but I know I did with 110!]
  10. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    I'm not sure I'd despise the light. I despise the sticker because of what it looks like. I've posted about that before and won't be responsible for adding to the number of participants here who already can't un-see it.
  11. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    That ship sailed several days ago. A hundred+ miles more and multiple on/off cycles later, still not FSD-ing.
  12. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Re. camera recalibration: After 2.5 years and 60K miles, I "cleared" the camera calibration some weeks back after getting the bright idea it might make a difference with my funky intersection. When it still said "calibrating" after 100+ miles I cleared it again, and again after that, and then...
  13. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Wow, I never considered such a reason for using a turn signal, but it may go at least a little toward explaining a driving habit I've been perplexed about here in MA. As I approach an intersection at 6 o'clock with the intention to turn right, and there's a guy at 3 o'clock with his left blinker...
  14. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Having a routine is important, so when the routine is interrupted for some reason I know "something's wrong." Signaling before making a lane change is just an automatic procedure. Why bother expending the cognition on deciding whether or not to use the directional? It's never wrong, it's not a...
  15. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    I meant an external light, like that bumper sticker I despise...
  16. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Isn't MB required to have a light come on to indicate it's in L3 mode, for safety reasons? I wonder if Tesla ever considered an "FSD active" indicator light. Come to think of it, if they actually expected any of the currently delivered cars to ever reach L3, then wouldn't that mean they'd have...
  17. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    If I weren't in New England with traffic behind me, I wouldn't mind about those things so much either. But the behavior at stop signs around here is beyond embarrassing, and it gets worse now as the flora thickens up.
  18. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    So no one behind you is ever distracted enough to not realize your lane is ending and you have to move over? In any case, I'm old now and signaling is the easiest way to do a head check...
  19. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    And it didn't used to do that. I've done a coast-to-coast and two almost same road trips in my first two years ('21-'23) and it never had the lane change thrash. It boggles the mind how something so obnoxious becomes so prevalent at the "mature" end of the highway stack?
  20. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    I thought I'd tested it enough to be able to believe it watched my gaze and accepted a return to watching the road to cancel a nag. It's certainly possible I was wrong. My thinking at the time and still: if it detects my gaze move away from the road, it would make sense for it to detect my gaze...
  21. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    It makes sense to push during the most quiescent hours, so if any major issues come up they can put the kibosh on it after a relatively small number of installs?
  22. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    IIRC, didn't FSD already warn about attention being off the road and stop warning when you looked straight ahead? The message was something like "Please pay attention to the road" (not precise wording I'm sure). I would expect that in 12.4+ you can keep your hands off the yoke and not get the...
  23. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Well, after 60K miles with the yoke I've probably tried every possible way of holding it, but I sit pretty low so if my fingers are extended it's usually when they're applying torque to the lower arms of the yoke. Oh for sure, have to or I'd be spending way too much time trying to get my finger...
  24. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    That seems like it might work, I will give it a shot. I've been trying to use the ridge between the directional buttons and go up or down from that, but it takes me too long to find the ridge and be clear that I've found it. It's easier to find those top and bottom edges of that part of the...
  25. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    There was a noticeable difference in the button sensitivity/function between my original yoke (Sep '21 delivery) and my second, about 6 months later. I've never had any yoke peel (thank goodness) but someone seems to have poked a hole in my original and they replaced it as a courtesy, saying I...
  26. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Love the yoke....hate the buttons on it!
  27. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    I had a different issue ('21 refresh MSLR): The wipers put themselves into "Off" mode by themselves. I'd have them on Auto and the next time I woke up the car they'd be back in "Off". I think this eventually resolved itself, it may or may not have had something to do with profile settings (never...
  28. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    But especially our investment.
  29. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    I didn't mean to imply I 'fixate'. Of course I'm scanning. I was contrasting keeping my eyes generally forward vs. sneaking a second or two at a time to futz with the interface.
  30. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Maybe I'm an indecent driver, but I feel I'm decent at gauging how likely there is to be a surprise popping out in front of me on the road if I take my eyes off of it for 2 seconds. My eyes are typically darting back to the road at a rate I'd say is greater than one glance each two seconds. But...
  31. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Not necessarily; one can examine the screen for a couple of seconds, quickly scan the road for any surprises without moving one's head, and continue with the screen task. Granted, it's less safe than always keeping eyes on the road, but given road conditions that are fairly inert I believe a...
  32. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    More about nagging: For me, and this may be something tied in to my own personal neurology, I find that I can observe and mentally process FSD behavior considerably easier when I'm not having to deal with maintaining torque on the yoke, or remembering to give the yoke a short push every once in...
  33. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    My eyes are pretty sensitive, so I wear sunglasses just about any time I'm not wearing my yellow night-vision glasses. But I can see being in a mood for hands-free and just sacrificing the sunglasses for that period. OTOH, keeping some torque on the yoke has never been all that much of an...
  34. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Right, that's great theoretically, but if you recall, I kinda brought this all up because Elon chose to use the term emulation. It could be absolutely nothing, just a simple term he figured everyone could understand and HW4 may have been designed from the ground up to be in "HW3 emulation mode"...
  35. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    That's why I said "usually"...
  36. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    You mean just because the definitions you cited didn't address there being a performance cost? There's always a cost, just depends how extensive the emulation is. I don't know anything about the architectures involved, I'm just saying it's possible HW4 emulating HW3 could run slower than HW3...
  37. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    When I hear "emulation" mode I think loss of performance, technically it means a layer of abstraction that can cost an order of magnitude in throughput (as in the case of, say, one CPU emulating another.). If Elon had really meant to say that HW4 output could just be "sliced" to yield...
  38. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    I still hit the Park button on the screen, sometimes even after I've opened the door... it just feels like there should be another step...
  39. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Having done a solo coast-to-coast round trip and a couple more close-to-that solo road trips in the past two years, I can absolutely attest to the fatigue reduction of using FSD. At one point I was heading South approaching Yellowstone, planning to spend the night there, when an approaching...
  40. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    We had this mug, probably still do but I haven't seen it for a while. Whenever I want to remind my wife how lucky she is, I remind her that I'm good for more than just parallel parking.
  41. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Is there actually such a thing anymore? I mean "us testers". There's FSDS users, and non-users. Of the users, some of them post about it here. There are the influencers, who Tesla may deign to release to first, but isn't it basically just their testers and the public now? I don't know, I'm just...
  42. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Actually the signals are quite intelligent, at night my left turn lane gets an arrow a second after I stop at the line. It's the geometry of the intersection that makes perfect sense to a human (you go left, right, or straight across) but FSD just gets flummoxed because IT thinks going straight...
  43. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    I do have some curiosity as to what a recalibration could do for my funky intersection down the street.
  44. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Is there any known way to test calibration? I'd love to know if and how much my cameras are off before recalibrating them, and then to be able to measure again after.
  45. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    A pilot friend shared one with me that I now cannot get out of my head any time I hear someone misuse the word: when the flight attendant announces "we'll be landing momentarily", I picture the pilot doing a touch-and-go...
  46. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Ismo should do a bit on this...
  47. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    I've had several cases where FSD did not give a jogger running toward me anywhere near as much room as it should've, even with a clear view of the empty road ahead. Once the jogger was rounding the corner I was turning right into, and the other time it was on a straightaway but the jogger had to...
  48. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Love it, all we would need are 50% improvements to get another '1', whereas we need a 90% improvement for each '9'. Right now, I'd probably be OK if 12.4 ends up representing a 50% improvement. I'd be even more OK if that's accomplished without any regressions...
  49. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Mazal Tov. It's gonna be fun, that's for sure!
  50. lzolman

    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    That's a really optimistic interpretation IMO.