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Just my personal experience having used both systems (plus BMW). My Tesla would regularly phantom break going 80mph on the highway nearly getting me rear ended a few times. Never happened in my Benz or the BMW.

Do you think it's enjoyable working at twitter now? Good people are lost when the environment is toxic which ultimately leads to a failing organization.

If you think allowing hate speech and promoting violence against groups of people is OK, then by all means. But people shouldn't pretend that Elon believes in this "absolutist" free speech. The moment he is challenged on something he retaliates like a child.

Like letting Nazis back on Twitter? So they should herald him for that? The antisemitism.. stuff like that?

In the short-term maybe, but putting profits over the people in your company doesn't make for long-lasting success.. enter Musk.

And for that reason, I did not buy a Lucid. Everyone is different and has their personal opinions, but Elon is unhinged. There are people in positions of power where we have no idea what their ideology is - the difference is that Elon is actively spreading it.

I owned 3 Teslas a few years ago and I sold all of them. For many reasons, primarily Musk, I do not want to give them my money or associate with him. Unfortunately he has aligned himself with dark areas of the political spectrum that I do not align myself with. I could explain those, but you...

Well he plays them on TV really well.

Will the fanboys now admit it's time for a new CEO?

https://www.engadget.com/tesla-knew-some-of-its-parts-had-high-failure-rates-but-reportedly-blamed-drivers-anyway-184957494.html

People don't even read instructions to put together Ikea furniture. They will never do this.

What has Iger done wrong? He is protecting Disney from being associated with a platform that has gone off the rails with nazi propaganda. So he chose not to advertise.

Well he didn’t let white supremacists and nazis back on Twitter back then. Or insult Jewish people. So yeah there’s a difference. There’s no perception. He’s telling us who he is.

Unfortunately the CEO is known to exaggerate, lie, whatever you want to call it. I call it lies. This article explains the history going back to that fake FSD video that Elon was involved in. He simply claimed things that were not true, and charged for them...

It was nauseating. Munro is basically a Tesla Ad channel. And saying he would never take his grandkids to Disney? Good. Space Karen meets Car Karen.

This is what Elon does all the time. Promise and underdeliver.

Is the off-topic thread truly off-topic? If I post any real news related to Elon it immediately gets deleted, I would suspect because it's negative. This keeps happening. So I can only assume that any negative Musk news is not tolerated anywhere, even in off-topic.

Great way to win back advertisers.. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/11/29/elon-musk-advertiser-dealbook/

When he starts using Ben Shapiro to defend himself…..he needs to take responsibility for his words and actions.

You're incorrect. The position of his tweet clearly shows that he was responding to "Eric". This is just a fact.

The best thing that could happen to Tesla is for Elon to exit. Same for X, same for SpaceX. Imagine if you're a Jewish person working at one of these places.

I sold my Tesla last year, solely because of Elon. I saw what was coming and I couldn't associate myself with him anymore. No judgement on others. But for me, it was the right move.

Kind of does.

https://www.axios.com/2023/11/17/apple-twitter-x-advertising-elon-musk-antisemitism-ads

Also in the biography... Musk wanted to use Tesla cameras to spy on drivers and win autopilot lawsuits

As above. Apologies to responsible posters that the thread has come to this.

Continued ignoring multiple Moderator warnings result in poster's writing being replaced by this Green Note, plus poster gets a week-long holiday in an open canoe in the eye of Hurricane Lee.

Correct. I would doubt Tesla would continue installing these adapters as a huge number of manufacturers are moving to NACS. On another thread I had a discussion whether Tesla is a luxury car company or not. Technically they're not so they wouldn't be in the same league as those German...

I have a BMW EV and it does 350 miles per charge - Tesla is converting stations to have CCS adapters. Whether those plans have changed or not I don't know, but they started doing so in the US.

It's called my garage. Which is all I need. And newsflash - Tesla is opening chargers to everyone.

The difference though is that the Mercedes S class was put together with nearly 100 years of experience and quality control. Heads can turn all day long, but if the car is not put together well, doesn't matter.

The Tesla fanboys need to get a grip. The guy was just making a (factual) statement. No need to get personal.

Wow. What a coincidence. :rolleyes: Ron DeSantis Signs Bill Shielding Elon Musk’s SpaceX From Lawsuits

You forgot that Tesla quality totally sucks. So they can be miles ahead with the technology, but if you're getting cars with stuff falling apart, then it's not really great (and I had several Teslas). And I live in Florida, have my entire life. Elon aligning himself with fascists isn't good for...

Elon is like the Trump of technology. Just blame or sue everyone regardless of fault.

Mr. Exploding Rocket / Space Karen is a real embarrassment.

He simply doesn't care.

The circle is now complete. Elon appears with Tucker Carlson. Full Psychotic Mode engaged.

So letting white supremacists back on Twitter, making fun of people with disabilities, retweeting right-wing conspiracy theories, etc... is just normal I guess?

I see these responses a lot. Ford from that era is not Ford now. You can't go back in time, you can only make informed decisions on what is happening now. I did get rid of both my Teslas because I do not want to be associated Elon at all (and I canceled my CT deposit). Plus, the quality and FSD...

It's really disgusting.

I can't tell if this is sarcasm.

Wow what a fun atmosphere to work in.

Twitter is down: twitter.com {"errors":[{"message":"Your current API plan does not include access to this endpoint, please see https://developer.twitter.com/en/docs/twitter-api for more information","code":467}]} Maybe things like this happen when you fire everyone and don't appreciate the...

Ok then he's just a "little" racist.

Life can be complicated. But you know what isn't complicated? Don't tell other white people to stay away from black people. And if you're Space Karen, then don't support people like this (although I suspect he wholeheartedly does).

If you haven't seen what the Dilbert writer said, he basically said white people should "get the he** away from black people": https://www.npr.org/2023/02/26/1159580425/newspapers-have-dropped-the-dilbert-comic-strip-after-a-racist-rant-by-its-creat And here is Elon's support of this man. Elon...

Did you work at Twitter and were there for the lackadaisical work culture? By all accounts Twitter grew to be a huge success through this "lackadaisical" work culture. Space Karen is just being a d**** wielding power.

That's fine if he wants to do that, but don't promote it to the world as if it's something else. And don't abuse your employees.

The level of self-centeredness... Yes, Elon Musk created a special system for showing you all his tweets first "Terrified of losing their jobs, this is the system that Twitter engineers are now building." “He bought the company, made a point of showcasing what he believed was broken and...