Crutonius
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WTF! They put a screen in the back seat but the driver still doesn't get an instrument panel?
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I agree. I just sold one of the nicest and fully loaded Mercedes S-class cars that anyone could ever build (151K MSRP every single option). I swear that my current new to me Blue Model S turns heads 10X more than my S-class. I hot many thumps ups on stop lights. Not many Tesla cars in my area or state.I think Model S is still one of the best looking cars on the road. The rear can not be beat. I think it looks much better by far over the Model 3 and don‘t even consider the Model 3 close the same league.
The difference though is that the Mercedes S class was put together with nearly 100 years of experience and quality control. Heads can turn all day long, but if the car is not put together well, doesn't matter.I agree. I just sold one of the nicest and fully loaded Mercedes S-class cars that anyone could ever build (151K MSRP every single option). I swear that my current new to me Blue Model S turns heads 10X more than my S-class. I hot many thumps ups on stop lights. Not many Tesla cars in my area or state.
Heads can turn all day long, but if the car is not put together well, doesn't matter.
If the car does not have a charge network you can rely on, well the car doesn't matter.The difference though is that the Mercedes S class was put together with nearly 100 years of experience and quality control. Heads can turn all day long, but if the car is not put together well, doesn't matter.
I agree. I just sold one of the nicest and fully loaded Mercedes S-class cars that anyone could ever build (151K MSRP every single option). I swear that my current new to me Blue Model S turns heads 10X more than my S-class. I hot many thumps ups on stop lights. Not many Tesla cars in my area or state.
It's called my garage. Which is all I need. And newsflash - Tesla is opening chargers to everyone.If the car does not have a charge network you can rely on, well the car doesn't matter.
Your garage does not enable you to do road trips. Your MB is a great city car enjoy.It's called my garage. Which is all I need. And newsflash - Tesla is opening chargers to everyone.
I wonder if these price drops will crush the competition. Porsche, Audi, BMW will soldier on, as will GM and Ford, but what about Lucid and Rivian?
I have a BMW EV and it does 350 miles per charge - Tesla is converting stations to have CCS adapters. Whether those plans have changed or not I don't know, but they started doing so in the US.Your garage does not enable you to do road trips. Your MB is a great city car enjoy.
Last I heard no company is adding NACS for at least the next 2 years.
I think we were talking about 2 different things then. The stations with CCS adapters have been referred to as Magic docs and there is a list of those in another thread.I have a BMW EV and it does 350 miles per charge - Tesla is converting stations to have CCS adapters. Whether those plans have changed or not I don't know, but they started doing so in the US.
Correct. I would doubt Tesla would continue installing these adapters as a huge number of manufacturers are moving to NACS. On another thread I had a discussion whether Tesla is a luxury car company or not. Technically they're not so they wouldn't be in the same league as those German manufacturers. But people do perceive Tesla as a luxury car manufacturer. The difference is very very real with the quality. The Kia EV6 generally has nicer interior and build quality than a Model 3. I think this is the real competition for Tesla. For the legacy carmakers they are still selling ICE cars so in a sense they're competing with themselves when someone comes in and doesn't like the EV price premium.I think we were talking about 2 different things then. The stations with CCS adapters have been referred to as Magic docs and there is a list of those in another thread.
List of Superchargers with Magic Docks
There are also a number of OEM's that are going to start installing the Tesla charge port (NACS) sometime in 2025 into their own cars.
tracking automaker nacs adoption in NA
I think it would be great if Tesla installed Magic Doc stations all over the country, but I do not think that will happen. In view of the large number of OEM's that are going native NACS, there might not be any incentive for Tesla to continue the Magic Doc installations.
As far as the price cuts Tesla made to the S and X, I do think that BMW and MB are going to feel some pressure to match those price cuts. However it remains to be seen if they follow suit or not.