miracj
2021 Model Y LR AWD
That's comparing apples and oranges. The model X (and S) uses Air Suspension.I've ridden in an X and there is a noticeable difference...
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That's comparing apples and oranges. The model X (and S) uses Air Suspension.I've ridden in an X and there is a noticeable difference...
That’s actually a really accurate review of the Model Y. I pretty much agree with everything he had to sayI am not sure the question does Tesla's Model Y suspension suck or not, will lead to an agreement. The past experience of everyone is different, as is the gender and age. To expect everyone to agree is akin to saying the best color is red. That said, my other vehicle is a 2020 Lexus 450 Rxh (hybrid). I find the Model Y suspension lacking. I am going to test drive a Model X and see if it is worth upgrading. I saw a video on YouTube by Ryan Shaw, who owns 5 Tesla's and has them on Turo. He likes the Model YLR the best. But he too finds the suspension stiff and lacking compared to other cars. Here is his video:
Yes and no - in the end I don’t care if I’m riding on apples or oranges, I just care about the ride.That's comparing apples and oranges. The model X (and S) uses Air Suspension.
Not tired yet? You got what you got. Either sell it or pay for upgradeYes and no - in the end I don’t care if I’m riding on apples or oranges, I just care about the ride.
Part of designing and building a car is designing the suspension. As I and others have pointed out, plenty other cars (including EVs) are able to make it work.
@tiberia.sun@gm Nissan Leaf handling is really bad though. At least the 1st gen ones I've driven. I remember their ride quality being perfectly fine, but nothing to write home about.Nissan Leaf ride way more comfortable than Y/3...
Heck almost all Nissan suspensions are more comfortable than Y/3...
Not having air suspension is not a good excuse for ride quality.
Isn't that what we are doing? Comparing the apple ride of a Y to the orange ride of [insert car here]?That's comparing apples and oranges. The model X (and S) uses Air Suspension.
@BigNerd While I certainly don't expect (or even want) the Y to feel like a sports car, if the Y handled like a Leaf or Pacifica I'd be sorely disappointed. (I can't comment on the QX60.) I think there's cars with much better suspension tuning to take inspiration from!Isn't that what we are doing? Comparing the apple ride of a Y to the orange ride of [insert car here]?
Neither my 22 Leaf or my previous cars (Chrysler PHEV Pacifica, QX60) has air suspension and it's still like apples and oranges.
That’s an interesting comparison, Tesla Y/3 to BMW suspension. Never been a big fan of BMW suspension but I find them it be similar to Y. Am I way off? Both are a bit stiff, certainly cornering is better in BMW…but the bumps you feel from the daily grind about what and what. My comparison; BMW 3, 5 and first run of X series.Coming from non air suspension bmws, I do think the overall ride quality is really lacking regarding compliance. Just because my MYP is stiff doesn't mean it handles well, quite the opposite. I'm actually scared go around a corner with too much speed because there might be a road imperfection that might just bounce me into an under-steer mess. I have very little confidence in either MYP or M3P. They need to hire some BMW suspension engineers or someone that can redo their whole spring rates and dampening ratios. Still fun in a straight line tho
I think which BMW matters a lot. An X3 I drove years ago had a horrible suspension, felt like a mini truck. Most 3 series and M3 I've driven had very good suspension tuning though. Some softer, some firmer, but pretty much always a good balance of ride and handling. 5 series and M5 good too as bigger cars go (I've less experience with them). Z3 was just fun, didn't get to push it hard but it felt appropriate for the street.That’s an interesting comparison, Tesla Y/3 to BMW suspension. Never been a big fan of BMW suspension but I find them it be similar to Y. Am I way off? Both are a bit stiff, certainly cornering is better in BMW…but the bumps you feel from the daily grind about what and what. My comparison; BMW 3, 5 and first run of X series.
I would say the m spec BMW cars are definitely tuned to drive better vs the normal 3 series. My last bmw a 08 v8 m3 which I just sold to help finance my new MYP. Again it comes to compliance teslas do not take road imperfections and just feels unsettled under most road conditions that's not perfectly flat. I've owned most generations of m3s and driven most of the x5/6 M cars...the tuning is just better but those vehicles do have adjustable dampening where the harshest setting is still better than my MYP suspension. Again this is just my opinion..I'm sure some ppl like Tesla current setup...I think it could be alot better if they tried. I would bet a electric macan would handle alot better than any Tesla.That’s an interesting comparison, Tesla Y/3 to BMW suspension. Never been a big fan of BMW suspension but I find them it be similar to Y. Am I way off? Both are a bit stiff, certainly cornering is better in BMW…but the bumps you feel from the daily grind about what and what. My comparison; BMW 3, 5 and first run of X series.
@ED_SFO Have you driven many Model S?I would say the m spec BMW cars are definitely tuned to drive better vs the normal 3 series. My last bmw a 08 v8 m3 which I just sold to help finance my new MYP. Again it comes to compliance teslas do not take road imperfections and just feels unsettled under most road conditions that's not perfectly flat. I've owned most generations of m3s and driven most of the x5/6 M cars...the tuning is just better but those vehicles do have adjustable dampening where the harshest setting is still better than my MYP suspension. Again this is just my opinion..I'm sure some ppl like Tesla current setup...I think it could be alot better if they tried. I would bet a electric macan would handle alot better than any Tesla.