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I thought people who follow Elon would be aware by now that he doesn't always make his own deadlines. I find it useful to keep in mind that he is simultaneously running two ground-breaking high technology companies that are disrupting huge established industries in unprecedented ways that many experts thought impossible.
In contrast, most of the rest of us are concentrating on what to eat for our next meal and should we buy the next smartphone model or keep our old phone for another year.
So when you criticize Elon for being a day late on a blog post about Autopilot software that is far ahead of anything the competition is doing, keep that contrast in mind.
Model S M.D.
Ludicrous Radiologist
hmmmm do I get the new iPhone or not... was just thinking that this morning!
jelloslug
Active Member
In the same place that has Spaceballs, James Bond, Spinal Tap, and Mario Cart references.Where does having your car models spell "S3XY" fit into that?
rog
Member
I think I know why Elon wanted to announce 8.0 a few weeks before it was ready. NHTSA requested lots of data from Tesla about autopilot accident rates, the number of warning messages etc and Tesla asked for an additional week to submit the data. The new deadline is tomorrow, 2nd Sep 2016 (source).
My guess is, Tesla already told NHTSA that they will release a software update to fix the blind radar issue. However, I think Elon is worried that NHTSA is going to say something stupid like Tesla agreed to a recall. After all, something similar happened 3 years ago and they did exactly that. Of course, then the media started talking about Tesla recalls. Elon argued with NHTSA that a software update is not a recall (source). So I think Elon just wants to get ahead and make sure that everybody understands that this is a software update and Tesla is not recalling 100K autopilot cars.
The delay is probably because Elon hasn't slept. He travels between Tesla and SpaceX all the time (source).
My guess is, Tesla already told NHTSA that they will release a software update to fix the blind radar issue. However, I think Elon is worried that NHTSA is going to say something stupid like Tesla agreed to a recall. After all, something similar happened 3 years ago and they did exactly that. Of course, then the media started talking about Tesla recalls. Elon argued with NHTSA that a software update is not a recall (source). So I think Elon just wants to get ahead and make sure that everybody understands that this is a software update and Tesla is not recalling 100K autopilot cars.
The delay is probably because Elon hasn't slept. He travels between Tesla and SpaceX all the time (source).
Sam Gabbay
Former Vendor
Ok so let me take the unpopular opinion here
wasn't criticizing merely pointing out a fact... to date he (Elon) has NEVER actually made a deadline he sets himself i'd give him the benefit on the doubt if he didn't do it EVERY single time its not different than those spammers who hype up penny stock to raise the price. While I wont go into details with every deadline he's missed he's pretty consistent with doing it and it clearly trickles down the line ( go see the threads where peoples delivery get pushed back or where service centers are backed up because of missing parts) the argument that he's running two ground breaking companies isn't really a good one when 1 he doesn't have to tweet out he's going to do something to draw attention and doesn't and 2 everyone else from movies star to CEOS has someone to manage social media. I don't know maybes its because i grew up in a different era when i say im going to do something my word is on the line to make it happen. If it had been ANYONE else you'd be agreeing with me but because its him he gets a pass President Obama runs a country yet the moment he says something and doesn't follow thru your quick to call him a liar. How is this different ?
I'm super-fan-boy and 100% in with the Tesla KoolAid. But I wonder if his tweet or the timing of it might be to lessen the negative hit of the news articles:
Tesla plans to raise funds this year to tackle cash crunch
Tesla plans to raise funds this year to tackle cash crunch
When he tweets and releases stuff people eat it up, stock usually goes up. Look what happened with his 100kw announcement and tease.
I still can't wait to see what the company has in store and can't wait to get v8 on my car. But I wonder if the timing of the 2 is just a coincidence.
Tesla plans to raise funds this year to tackle cash crunch
Tesla plans to raise funds this year to tackle cash crunch
When he tweets and releases stuff people eat it up, stock usually goes up. Look what happened with his 100kw announcement and tease.
I still can't wait to see what the company has in store and can't wait to get v8 on my car. But I wonder if the timing of the 2 is just a coincidence.
eye.surgeon
Active Member
The Space X accident will have zero impact on 8.0 release. They're two different companies. Do you think Elon is writing code for 8.0? The software team at Tesla have nothing to do with rockets or Space X.
mikes_fsd
Banned
TaoJones
Beyond Driven
Good lord. Between the fanbois, snark peddlers, short sellers, and the conspiracy theorists, we've got a full house this morning.
On the one hand, Elon has an opportunity to start a trend of one instance of accurately forecasting, accounting for third party dependencies, *and* posting a blog update on time (not early, as that would be inefficient and not make use of every available minute pre-deadline). Dessicated humor alert there.
On the other, the man gets more done to save the world during his morning constitutional (read that, morning visit to the commode) than many of us accomplish in our lives.
Direct CEO communication with we, the Great Unwashed Masses (relatively speaking, even though more than a few of us are C-level types as well) is pretty cool. Frustrating, sometimes, but less so than having a rocket blow up your schedule. See what I did there.
The article, whenever it gets posted, will be interesting and probably produce as many questions as it answers. And the software update (v8.1.x) will be nifty in a month or so.
But will there be coat hooks in the Model 3?
And so it goes.
On the one hand, Elon has an opportunity to start a trend of one instance of accurately forecasting, accounting for third party dependencies, *and* posting a blog update on time (not early, as that would be inefficient and not make use of every available minute pre-deadline). Dessicated humor alert there.
On the other, the man gets more done to save the world during his morning constitutional (read that, morning visit to the commode) than many of us accomplish in our lives.
Direct CEO communication with we, the Great Unwashed Masses (relatively speaking, even though more than a few of us are C-level types as well) is pretty cool. Frustrating, sometimes, but less so than having a rocket blow up your schedule. See what I did there.
The article, whenever it gets posted, will be interesting and probably produce as many questions as it answers. And the software update (v8.1.x) will be nifty in a month or so.
But will there be coat hooks in the Model 3?
And so it goes.
Newbies: Do not read anything prior to this post here, as it will be a total waste of your time.
habanero69
I Dont Need Cialis. I Drive an EV.
At least SO FAR TODAY, we've not heard about any MS or MX accidents or blow-ups. With today's Wall Street Journal article saying that basically the VC investors and board members weren't really on board with the merging of Tesla and SolarCity and, Tesla will pay $422 million to SolarCity AND, have to raise more capital, this SpaceX failure has probably pretty much ended Elon's day and the possibility of any Tesla news.
With today's Wall Street Journal article saying that basically the VC investors and board members weren't really on board with the merging of Tesla and SolarCity and, Tesla will pay $422 million to SolarCity AND, have to raise more capital, this SpaceX failure has probably pretty much ended Elon's day and the possibility of any Tesla news. 
I had a boss once who had an unusual attitude about deadlines. He did want us to try to meet them, but he emphasized that "People will remember how well you do sometime a lot longer than they will remember whether or not it was on time."
So I try to remember that.
There are exceptions, of course. We don't want our surgeons to be late doing emergency life-saving surgery, etc. But a one-day or 2-day or even a 5-day delay in publishing a blog post, however interesting, won't measurably affect the quality of our lives...
So I try to remember that.
There are exceptions, of course. We don't want our surgeons to be late doing emergency life-saving surgery, etc. But a one-day or 2-day or even a 5-day delay in publishing a blog post, however interesting, won't measurably affect the quality of our lives...
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