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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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K_Dizzle
Member
Ahem, oil changes require trips to the service center. Cough cough
Could investors/shareholders sue CR?
electrichapp
Member
not a millennial, but interpretation is: chicken not going down without a fight grabs axe.
anthonyj
Stonks
A cute and innocent looking chicken is wielding a deadly axe. If you wanted to go deep into it you could say that Tesla might look like dinner to it’s competitors, but Tesla is a different chicken
Peace Was Never An Option | Know Your Meme
electrichapp
Member
Seeing more FUD articles out there just by doing a google search for tsla.
Not clicking on the negative links. Just on the positive. Reward the positives and not the negatives.
This one stands out as positive - First Tesla Model 3s Zoom Into China, Outracing Tariff Threat
More higher ASP model 3 shipments to China and Europe ahead of schedule means more $$$ coming in for Tesla's Q1.
Bodes well for Q1 profits.
China trade deal should help a lot.
Tesla should just pay the march convertibles and be done with it.
TSLA stock chart looks like a falling wedge on the daily.
Looking forward to a breakout on the upside next week.
Not clicking on the negative links. Just on the positive. Reward the positives and not the negatives.
This one stands out as positive - First Tesla Model 3s Zoom Into China, Outracing Tariff Threat
More higher ASP model 3 shipments to China and Europe ahead of schedule means more $$$ coming in for Tesla's Q1.
Bodes well for Q1 profits.
China trade deal should help a lot.
Tesla should just pay the march convertibles and be done with it.
TSLA stock chart looks like a falling wedge on the daily.
Looking forward to a breakout on the upside next week.
dhrivnak
Active Member
I think the real problem is that Tesla does have a few growing pains and quality issues. Look I love my Roadster and the Model 3. Combined I have 68,000 miles. BUT I have had more issues and service calls (5) than for any other car. Tesla did a great job serving and I am pleased but our Volt has been more reliable. Most cars today gave great quality Tesla is only good at the moment. Not surprising as they are pushing so many boundaries at once.
EVNow
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Only problem I've had with 3 is unlocking, once in a while (the infamous phone unlocking). Its a minor irritant - obviously not been to the shop for this.
My second Leaf was in the shop couple of times because of battery issues - totally for over a month.
My first Leaf & Volt were never in the shop. But I had to take the Leaf in for a software update.
My second Leaf was in the shop couple of times because of battery issues - totally for over a month.
My first Leaf & Volt were never in the shop. But I had to take the Leaf in for a software update.
EU tariffs may replace chinese tariffs as an obstacle in Q2/Q3 depending on how long that drags on with "Tariff Man"
shlokavica22
Member
Someone linked to him an article with the title "Nio gets boost as '60 Minutes' promos positive piece". Then he replied by linking http://stankmemes.com/
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mblakele
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I have a dark sense of humor, so I kept thinking of applying that one to TSLA. "Why isn't my TSLA up?" and so on.... Could also be "why isn't my FUD working" or "why isn't my fuel cell working" I suppose. But maybe it's better to take the high road: let sleeping dolphins lie.
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mblakele
FSD Beta (99)
This is a core issue, IMO. Tesla doesn't think in terms of model years, while the legacy industry is tied to them in deep ways. This applies not just to design and manufacturing, but also government regulation and media coverage. Here we see that CR is used to thinking in terms of model years, which feeds into how they think about gathering and releasing customer survey data.
A startup with decent tech and any kind of business model could disrupt the media side of this, forcing CR to change or die. But there probably isn't enough money in it.
Oh well. Here's a parting gift:
Consumer Reports auto testing and reliability: Top six myths busted
It is true that there is a bias here at Consumer Reports. We are biased in favor of safe, reliable, fuel-efficient vehicles that are enjoyable to drive. To us, it doesn’t matter one bit if the car is from a domestic manufacturer or a foreign one, or if it is built in North America or South Korea. The tests are the same for all vehicles, and the results speak for themselves.
The Autoline YouTube channel has had some good info on Tesla technology in the past with Sandy Munro. This is a change in that they talk to a competitor to Tesla in the form of Borg Warner who are making drive units for competitors. There is some very very basic tech covered such as the difference between DC and AC. And there is a lightly touched concept of hot rodding EVs and how that would be done in the race world.
They cover the recurring issue of why EVs do not have a 2 speed transmission. They discuss inverters and their relationship to motors with a bit of discussion of Rivian's 4 WD 4 motor idea. There is a little discussion of regen and thermal management and some on batteries.
I found it interesting that the Borg Warner engineer is a bit wobbly on Tesla's use of the Halbach Array of magnets. They are not sure what is the benefit it seems, but they are aware there is something going on there.
TL;DV In the end, it is good that some subcontractors are intending to produce some competing tech because we need a lot of EVs pretty soon. On the other hand, I think they have a bit of a road to travel to catch up or really push Tesla but they understand there is going to be a market for some products they could supply.
They cover the recurring issue of why EVs do not have a 2 speed transmission. They discuss inverters and their relationship to motors with a bit of discussion of Rivian's 4 WD 4 motor idea. There is a little discussion of regen and thermal management and some on batteries.
I found it interesting that the Borg Warner engineer is a bit wobbly on Tesla's use of the Halbach Array of magnets. They are not sure what is the benefit it seems, but they are aware there is something going on there.
TL;DV In the end, it is good that some subcontractors are intending to produce some competing tech because we need a lot of EVs pretty soon. On the other hand, I think they have a bit of a road to travel to catch up or really push Tesla but they understand there is going to be a market for some products they could supply.
hacer
Active Member
I once was assigned a put option (years ago, not TSLA) that I sold even though the Friday close before expiration had it over $1 out of the money. Since it was cash covered and I sold the put with the intent of acquiring the stock it didn't bother me but it was surprising. The following Monday it did open gap down a couple of dollars so I'm pretty sure whoever exercised it learned something in advance between the Friday close and the Saturday expiration since they made money (vs holding through Monday) when all appearances suggested they were losing money by exercising instead of just selling at the market price on Friday. It's been a long time but I don't think there was after hours trading back when this happened.
I image that if some huge news event were to happen Saturday morning on the day of expiration that market makers, brokers and/or clearing parties would find a way to exercise some of the options that were OTM on Friday from owners who gave no instructions to exercise and just keep the profits as if they wrote the option.
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