This is why I don't post much in this thread. If you look at the Lucid forums, it's the same, bullish comments non-stop and neglect/dismissal for anything not of that mindset. It's the same here, any other forum.
At the end of the day, 3 years, 5 years, we'll all see how it turns out. I post because Tesla is simply an interesting stock/company to discuss.
Facts are sales dropped a lot last quarter, price cuts were facts (MY dropped $20k), layoffs are happening now, facts are Elon is saying the company is worthless outside of AI/Robotaxis, facts are FSD is now $99/month vs. $199/month earlier. If you don't buy that narrative, those investors are now selling, hence, the stock dropping now. If you do buy it and think robotaxis/AI will make people think $20k or $12k is worth it to pay for, then load up now/later when it possibly gets even cheaper.