whitex
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100% on topic as it shows the pattern of Elon confirming and Tesla refuting availability of a retrofit.Lighted vanity mirrors? Oh yeah, they don't do retrofits. That's on topic.
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100% on topic as it shows the pattern of Elon confirming and Tesla refuting availability of a retrofit.Lighted vanity mirrors? Oh yeah, they don't do retrofits. That's on topic.
Tell me about it. I just replaced my MCU screen and upgraded the emmc chip because I couldn't wait any longer.
The retrofit is not going to be cheap... 4-5K
That's an interesting observation. Upgrading the AP2 or AP2.5 cars with MCU1 to MCU2 would free up a tens of thousands of MCU1s. Maybe Tesla could lower the price a bit for those pre-AP2 car MCU1 replacements!Hopefully (laughs to himself) a glut of MCU1s, removed from recent production to make-good on FSD/AP promises, would severely drop the replacement part costs of a pre-AP car getting the eMMC chip repair done. You know... since the labor is minimal and the resulting MCU1 supply could be in excess of the entirety of pre-AP car production.
That's an interesting observation. Upgrading the AP2 or AP2.5 cars with MCU1 to MCU2 would free up a tens of thousands of MCU1s. Maybe Tesla could lower the price a bit for those pre-AP2 car MCU1 replacements!
You should include the AP1 cars as well. All pre-AP and AP1 cars would have MCU1. I think the number would be closer to 135,000 pre-AP2 cars.Yeah, you'd think supply and demand would have some basis... I figure max there's about 50k pre-AP cars? Not sure how many others are MCU1, but even if only half the builds from AP1 until the switch to MCU2 eventually upgrade to MCU2, that's still a huge ratio of available (and otherwise useless) MCU1 units suddenly sitting on shelves.
And I can't think that ye olde pre-AP cars benefit much from MCU2 other than potentially having the LTE upgrade. My screen is pretty peppy and functions fine (except the web browser) on the current processing power. I don't need more silly games or fluff. I just want the car to function AS A CAR.
You should include the AP1 cars as well. All pre-AP and AP1 cars would have MCU1. I think the number would be closer to 135,000 pre-AP2 cars.
Right, that's what I'm saying -- if its 135k total... and 50K are pre-AP, then that's 85K with a clear motivation to upgrade. Of the 50K without AP, it's less advantageous to upgrade to MCU2 and a cheaper LTE-equipped MCU1 replacement would be a great option-- given that there'd be a surplus of them (85K units for something less than 50K cars as many have replacement MCUs already).
I think he was referring to swapping out old MCU1 with eMMC problems with refurbished MCU1 that would be returned from AP2 and AP2.5 cars getting upgraded. At least that's what I thought he meant in post #1502 above.AP1 cars have no more reason to upgrade than non-AP cars.
I mean arguably my car insurance isn’t worth it. I’ve spent $20,000 in premiums on this Tesla and got $0 benefit out of itHonestly, I don't think the extended warranty is worth it. Most people don't spend 5k on their car post warranty. Im at 2200 and at 130K
True. But the potential loss for an accident without having car insurance is practically limitless. Not exactly the same with an extended warranty.I mean arguably my car insurance isn’t worth it. I’ve spent $20,000 in premiums on this Tesla and got $0 benefit out of it
Sure; but it’s not practically limitless at least for me. Maybe in terms of the bodily injury value it’s worth 2 destroyed humans but it’s barely worth one and a half cars (I’ve got 200k PD and 5M bodily injury and that’s about the Max I’ve seen offered)True. But the potential loss for an accident without having car insurance is practically limitless. Not exactly the same with an extended warranty.
If you're paying for the MCU upgrade, then you "should" be able to keep your old MCU1, and either keep it as a bench setup, or sell it to decrease the overall cost of the upgrade...yes?
While that'd be fantastic, your car wouldn't drive with no MCU. The gateway is inside the MCU (an RTOS small separate computer) that is required to drive.You can keep it. Just drive their with no MCU. They can't take it back then!!
While that'd be fantastic, your car wouldn't drive with no MCU. The gateway is inside the MCU (an RTOS small separate computer) that is required to drive.
While that'd be fantastic, your car wouldn't drive with no MCU. The gateway is inside the MCU (an RTOS small separate computer) that is required to drive.
The Model 3 has been essentially unchanged since the first ones built since 2017.
Car insurance is required by law, but for any optional insurances, if you can afford to cover it yourself, in the long term you're better off not paying premiums - over a lifetime you should come out ahead. Insurance is best reserved for catastrophic events which would break you financially (or simply not be able to afford it at all). Remember, insurance sellers make profit on their product, so why not sell it to yourself. I never pay for any extended warranties and over the course of my life so far I only lost that bet once or twice, but overall I'm already significantly ahead.I mean arguably my car insurance isn’t worth it. I’ve spent $20,000 in premiums on this Tesla and got $0 benefit out of it
Those are the things that come to mind.
- Seats both front and rears with rears being much more comfortable
- AP2.5 -> AP3 hardware
- Alcantara headliner -> whatever the fabric is now
- Leather steering wheel -> vegan leather
- Glass roof coating
- EAP broken up to FSD package
Car insurance is required by law, but for any optional insurances, if you can afford to cover it yourself, in the long term you're probably better off not paying premiums - over alifetime you shouldlarge sample of individual lifetimes this will tend to come out ahead.